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New Hope for Steam Power: Why Can't I Find Cast Iron In This Bloody Country?

Posted October 14, 2009 8:00 AM by Old_School

The next part of the project was to design a uniflow-style cylinder for the engine. This design bears many similarities to a two-stroke cylinder, especially in the sense that the exhaust port is machined into the cylinder wall itself. But I couldn't use a cylinder from a two-stroke engine for a variety of reasons. First, because I had no need for intake or transfer ports, a two-stroke cylinder would have been unnecessarily complicated for my purposes. Also, according to period steam literature I've read, the optimal exhaust timing for a uniflow engine is 15% above bottom dead center (BDC) of a piston's stroke.

Because of the radically different nature of internal combustion (IC) engine physics, the ports are much larger and open much earlier in the stroke than would be efficient for the project. Assuming that the piston skirt covers the port when at top dead center (TDC) to prevent excess steam in the crankcase, the only consideration is maximizing the size of the port while maintaining the exhaust timing. In the case of this engine, I was able to machine four ports with a 6-mm diameter into the cylinder.

Of course, the only option was to once again make the parts myself. Cast iron is still the gold standard for cylinder liners, so I attempted to find a source. (I know I'll receive comments telling me all about coated aluminum liners, but bear with me - I'm a college student with basically no budget.). A funny thing about Denmark, though, is there aren't a whole lot of cast iron pipes lying around. I even tried going to the on-campus foundry, but they required me to make my own molds, specify the exact alloy desired (I had no idea), and wait for them to actually perform the production run.

Instead, I decided to use a piece of carbon steel, machine it myself, and have it honed by the campus shop since it was a prototype and longevity wasn't an issue at that point. For future designs, I would prefer something less prone to oxidation, such as a Nikasil lining or stainless steel. After machining the liner, I shrank-fit it into an aluminum cylinder to reduce the weight and provide a place to run the mounting studs through. In my next blog entry, I will describe the creation of the cylinder head and timing chain.


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Re: New Hope for Steam Power: Why Can't I Find Cast Iron In This Bloody Country?

10/15/2009 1:42 AM

When redoing this remember the term "ingot", specifically a cast iron ingot. This is the terminology used when needing cast iron from the metals supply.

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10/15/2009 10:13 AM

Call up a local metal distributor and ask about continuous cast-cast iron hollow bars. If none in the area stop in at a local machine shop and ask where they buy their cast iron bar stock. They might even have some left overs pieces they would sell you. Most tool and die and machine shops have to buy their raw materials somewhere and for a straight forward tube like requirement the continuously cast hollow bar is by far a more economical route. If you want more wear resistance you can go for ductile or ni-resist but that may only come in solids and not in hollow. Ni-resist is not easily machined either.

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10/15/2009 10:53 AM

Oh yeah, metal distributors are the key in this country, but try finding one in Denmark. (Thats where i was studying during this stage of the project)

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10/15/2009 12:23 PM

That's why I also said "machine shops". I'm sure they have those even in Denmark. Maybe under "matchvinder".

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10/15/2009 2:36 PM

The campus machine shop staff were the ones that recommended me to the campus foundry etc. etc. :)

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10/15/2009 4:31 PM

Do yourself a favor if you are really serious about all you've said above and go to an independent machine shop-off campus, one that has to compete in the REAL world and ask them. I spent 36 years in the foundry and can tell you that the grain structure on continuous cast material is far superior than most any commercial iron foundry casting product and as far as a University foundry I wouldn't want to be near any rotating or reciprocating item made from one of their castings. Their knowledge of castings generally revolves around art casting (been there-done that also). Their equipment generally is not state-of-the-art and they often compromise the material to meet their needs or fit within their limitations. They are generally concerned with esthetic's and not structural integrity. The physical properties would probably be a far cry from that found in an engineering handbook as expected for whatever composition they create. For all the work you would be putting into this project I would assume that you would want it to work long enough to get some meaningful output.

But hey, it's your project. Whatever floats your boat.

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10/15/2009 10:29 PM

Old School -- Here's a source you ought to be able to afford:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/3626/=42tdy9

Go with the solid bar (cheaper then tube) and drill/bore/hone it to size. This is continuous cast material. McMaster-Carr doesn't say whether it is class 25 or class 35 iron. Class 35 is stronger in tensile strength and will probably wear better; but I'm sure class 25 will work for what you are doing.

McMaster-Carr is a high quality source and is very experienced in making international shipments.

Don't be surprised if you get piston-cylinder leakage problems when the iron/aluminum composite structure goes to high operating temperatures. This is due to the difference in thermal expansion rates of the two materials.

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