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Rotating Black Holes - the Naked Truth?

Posted March 05, 2007 11:00 PM by Jorrie

Roy Kerr, a native New Zealander, discovered a solution to Einstein's field equations that represents the spacetime around a rotating black hole. It was in 1963, while he was at the University of Texas.

It is thought that most black holes that formed from stellar collapse must be rotating, simply because most, if not all, stars do rotate. Like all rotating stellar objects, rotating black holes also bulge out around their equators. Actually, in this case it's not quite a "bulge" that forms, but a "flattening" at the poles, as shown in the figure below - a bit exaggerated for effect!

The broken line circle represents the event horizon radius of a non-rotating (i.e., a Schwarzschild) black hole with radius 2GM/c^2. When the black hole is spinning, three distinct radii develop: an inner event horizon (Rinner, black region), an outer event horizon (Router, brown region) and a so-called static limit (Rstatic, green region). Before describing the different radii of interest, I will give the equations. This should be to the liking of some of my friends on this forum, e.g., "The Engineer"!

The first thing to do is to normalize as far as is practical - it helps to reduce unnecessarily complicated-looking equations.

The first two equations in the list above are: bar(M), the normalized mass of the black hole and a, the "spin parameter" of the black hole, both expressed in the SI units of meters - if you do not believe me, check it out by inserting the SI units and cancel them out! We will see below that the value of a can range form 0 (no spin) to bar(M) (extreme spin). The parameter J is the angular momentum of the black hole in kg m2 s-1 and G is Newton's gravitational constant in m3 kg-1 s-2. The spin parameter a is also sometimes expressed as the specific angular momentum (normalized angular momentum per unit mass), with a value 0 ≤ a ≤ 1.

Note that equations (3) and (4), apart from the sign difference before the square root, are the same. They represent the inner and the outer event horizons of a spinning black hole respectively. The outer event horizon is a radius at which all matter and light will just go inward - the "one-way membrane", similar to the event horizon of a Schwarzschild black hole. The inner event horizon theoretically reverses this and matter and light can possibly move in and out of there. This gives rise to the "wormhole" hypothesis - more about that in a future post.

The static limit (R_static) is a distance where no amount of force can keep an object static. Loosely speaking, it is where the spacetime rotates around the black hole at the speed of light. To prevent being dragged around, you must move faster than light relative to this rotating spacetime. This is called dragging of inertial frames or just frame dragging for short. It is also called the Lense-Thirring effect, after its discovers.

The region between the outer horizon and the static limit is called the ergo-sphere of the Kerr black hole - this is where frame dragging rules. Outside of the static limit, frame dragging still occurs, but it diminishes rather rapidly with distance. It took very, very sensitive equipment to detect it aboard a spacecraft (Gravity Probe B) in Earth orbit. See Gravity Probe B link at end of post.

As a sanity check on equations (3) to (5), set spin parameter a = 0, representing the non-rotating Schwarzschild black hole. Then R_inner = 0 and R_outer = R_static = 2bar(M), as expected. Objects cannot remain static at R=2bar(M) from a Schwarzschild black hole - they will not be rotating around, but just be dragged radially inward, irrespective of the amount of thrust that they have available.

Equations (3) and (4) shows that as a black hole rotates faster, R_inner moves outward and R_outer moves inward, until at spin a = bar(M), they are both equal to bar(M). A black hole with this angular momentum is called an extreme Kerr black hole. It is theorized that no black hole can spin faster than this rate without destroying its event horizons. In fact the values of R_inner and R_outer go imaginary there (due to the square root of a negative number being taken).

However, imaginary numbers are valid in mathematics and it can be used to state that, should a black hole spin faster and faster, both event horizons will eventually shrink to zero, revealing the central singularity of the black hole. This is called a naked singularity, which may or may not exist. It is not even certain that singularities, whether naked or not, exist. There are possibly quantum mechanical effects that prevent such bizarre things to exist in nature.

It is also not sure if the Kerr solution to Einstein's field equations describes the inner workings of a rotating black hole at all. From what can be cosmologically observed, it appears that it describes the outer spacetime adequately. The inner spacetime may forever be hidden behind the "clothing" called event horizons and we may never know…

You can read more about Gravity Probe B (mentioned above) on my web page Tests of Relativity. In my next Blog post, I will discuss the phenomenon of frame dragging a bit more fully.

Till then, regards, Jorrie


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03/06/2007 6:18 PM

Very nice, Jorrie!

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03/07/2007 1:39 PM

Hi -e, thanks! You also said: "PS: Go Longhorns!"

No, for the next month or so, I'll "Go Proteas!"

And later in the year, it will be "Go Bokke, Go!"

Probably means as little to USA residents as what "Go Longhorns!" means to many Southerners, I mean real Southerners!

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03/07/2007 1:51 PM

Real Suthunuhs, huh? Yo momma! Jest yew wait to try some o' mah World-Famous Fire-Ant Chili! It'll take the chrome off yer trailer hitch, fo' sho'! (An' all y'all yankees wuz thinkin' this Global Warming bizness wuz from sumpin' else,,,)

Sigh.

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03/07/2007 4:36 PM

Funny, when I was a kid I thought one had to travel to Africa to get African Violets. I wanted one because I saw on TV how you could cut a leaf in half and plant it, and it would grow into a whole new plant. That was totally cool! I like flower gardening. Do you raise proteas?

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03/08/2007 2:33 AM

Hi -e, yes we do raise proteas, both the floral and the humanoid subspecies!

The floral types prefer mountainous terrain & soil and a winter rainfall climate. Not easy to cultivate in your back yard garden, but possible.

The humanoid types prefer flat green grass fields with just a patch of hardness near the center. They don't like rain at all, but they can consume huge amounts of liquid in all forms.

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03/07/2007 11:06 AM

As in the U.T. men's basketball team? What's the NCAA Div. I record for overtime periods in a season?

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As in Texas A&M's arch-nemesis, The University of Texas. We bleed orange! Aggies? We bleed them, too. hehehe

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03/07/2007 2:11 PM

Hi Jorrie.

Very interesting, but it leaves me a bit bewildered! You said "To prevent being dragged around, you must move faster than light relative to this rotating spacetime."

Now this can obviously not be! Do you mean that since it is impossible to move faster than the speed of light relative to anything, you will be dragged around?

Next, I've heard that you can gain energy from a black hole that is rotating. Does that mean you must first fall in and be ejected into another universe in order to gain energy?

My head aches!!

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03/07/2007 4:49 PM

Guest asks: "Now this can obviously not be! Do you mean that since it is impossible to move faster than the speed of light relative to anything, you will be dragged around?"

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Yes, you will be dragged round. It's just as if someone said you must travel faster than light to escape a non-rotating black hole after having passed through its event horizon. It doesn't mean you can actually pull this off; just a way of saying that it is impossible.

Energy can be extracted from far less exotic celestial objects than black holes. The Voyager spacecraft, for example, used the gravitational field of Jupiter to "slingshot" them out to points beyond. Jupiter, of course, suffered a corresponding loss in momentum, but the effect on massive Jupiter is far, far too small to be observed.

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03/07/2007 5:08 PM

Btw, the Voyager example is quite distinct from energy extracted in conjunction with frame-dragging. They're different beasts. But the point is that one needn't interact with the body in any other way, such as traversing a "wormhole," or whatever.

Think of a swimmer approaching a whirlpool formed by water being sucked down by a submerged, 2 m diameter irrigation pipe (scary thought! It happened to me once and I barely escaped with my life). The swimmer's trajectory and velocity is altered by the motion of the water. The swimmer may, in fact, be completely stationary with respect to the whirlpool's center, only to find herself gradually accelerated by the swirling water. Should the swimmer veer away with this additional momentum and use it to head to shore (provided she can escape), the whirlpool loses momentum to a corresponding degree. Here the analogy falls apart because the whirlpool's momentum is continually replenished by the surrounding water. In the case of gravitational frame-dragging, the hole's losses are permanent, but you get the idea.

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03/08/2007 2:17 AM

Hi RB, Europium did a very good job at explaining the effect of frame dragging and the use of "faster than light".

To gain energy from a spinning black hole one must carefully navigate to enter the ergosphere with the rotation direction, somewhere between the poles and the equator. At the poles there is no energy to be gained and there is normally jets of superheated gas being ejected there. At the equator, the outer horizon touches the outside of the ergo-sphere (see diagram in OP) and if you are caught by the outer horizon, you're a goner! Add to this that around the equator there is normally an accretion disk of superheated gas and dust that falls into the hole. Not the place to be!

So you carefully calculate an orbit that will take you out of the ergosphere without ever touching the outer horizon and, preferably miss the accretion disk. You would gain a lot of momentum for your ship if you succeed.

It will be wise to have a back-up system, either a strong rocket or perhaps just some ballast that you can eject towards the horizon. This will give a slight kick outward and help you escape.

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03/08/2007 3:06 AM

I blundered when I wrote: "At the equator, the outer horizon touches the outside of the ergo-sphere (see diagram in OP) and if you are caught by the outer horizon, you're a goner!"

Its at the poles that the two touch, not at the equator! Nevertheless, one stays away from both for the other very good reasons given!

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03/08/2007 7:29 PM

Hi Jorrie,

I have been enjoying your blogs. You wrote:

"should a black hole spin faster and faster, both event horizons will eventually shrink to zero, revealing the central singularity..."

Since astronomers can measure the diameter of stars, it seems they could also measure the diameters of black holes. Has anyone measured a black hole with zero size (a singularity)?

I have another question. Could a rocket or other fast moving object enter the tip of the event horizon (of a black hole with size) and come back out due to the high momentum?

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StandardsGuy,

This is a bit off-topic, but I've always wondered why they called your avatar Data. Shouldn't his name more properly be Datum, or did he have multiple personalities NexGen's screenwriters didn't want us to know about?

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03/09/2007 9:50 PM

Good point, but it is his name. There is some controversy about how to pronounce it. Just ask Dr. Polowski.

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03/08/2007 10:38 PM

Hi StandardsGuy, you're welcome!

You asked: "Since astronomers can measure the diameter of stars, it seems they could also measure the diameters of black holes. Has anyone measured a black hole with zero size (a singularity)?"

You know what, astronomers can't even measure the diameter of any star directly! They look like point sources in even the most powerful telescopes. They infer it from distance, brightness and spectral signature, plus mass to some extent. Measuring a black hole's diameter, with no brightness or spectral qualities is hence totally out of the question.

The mass of black holes are obtained by observing their gravitational influence on other objects, like stars and to some extent by observing the accretion disks around the hole. The gas and dust get very compressed and suffers lots of friction/collisions as it swirls in, being heating white-hot and radiating in a lot of wavelengths. The mass and size are then calculated from relativity theory.

You also asked: "Could a rocket or other fast moving object enter the tip of the event horizon (of a black hole with size) and come back out due to the high momentum?"

No, according to Einstein's general relativity, the outer event horizon is a "one-way membrane" and no amount of thrust or speed can help you out again. The problem is that your speed cannot exceed that of light (c) in relation to the black hole. It is only in the ergo-sphere of a spinning black hole that there is a good chance of escape.

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03/09/2007 2:09 AM

When I wrote: "You know what, astronomers can't even measure the diameter of any star directly! They look like point sources in even the most powerful telescopes.", I goofed!

Europium discreetly reminded me about the fact that Betelgeuse's surface disk has been imaged by the HST in 1999. The only other star surface imaged so far is obviously Sol, our star...

In any case, the facts about black hole sizes remain the same. If a super-massive one is discovered relatively nearby (an uncomfortable thought), one can possibly image it's "disk" indirectly by observing the blanked-out portion of the sky.

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03/09/2007 9:45 PM

Hi Jorrie,

In a document I wrote some years ago after reading some books I wrote:

"Diameters of giant stars

Even the nearest stars seem no more than a point of light in the best Modern telescopes. The German-American physicist Albert Michelson invented a device called a light interferometer. It produces interference patterns in light rays, and made it possible to measure the very small angle between the light coming from one side of a star and the light coming from the other side. From the angle, and the distance of the star, the diameter can be calculated. Betelgeuse was measured this way in 1920, and found to be as large as the orbit of Mars around the sun. Epsilon Aurigae, which is only visible in infrared, is as large as the orbit of Uranus!"

It is unclear whether any smaller stars can be measured this way, but in any case you are right about black holes, they don't give off light, so it was a stupid question!

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Hi StandardsGuy, you wrote: "The German-American physicist Albert Michelson invented a device called a light interferometer. It produces interference patterns in light rays, and made it possible to measure the very small angle between the light coming from one side of a star and the light coming from the other side."

I believe that the angle was not measure directly, but inferred indirectly. The interferometer could only measure the spread in the light spectrum between two of the sides (provided that we do not see the star from either of its poles). This gave the velocity of each side due to Doppler effect.

Then they also had to measure the rotation period of the star, probably from slight periodic changes in the spectrum due to 'star spots'. These two pieces of data can be used to determine the diameter.

They surely could not resolve the angle that the star spans in the 1920s?

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The second measurement is not of the stellar spectrum, but of its light curve; that is, a plot of its intensity versus time. Say the star has a hotspot, like that of Betelgeuse in the photo. The intensity of the spot will change from its own internal mechanisms, but it will also appear to grow brighter, then dimmer, as it traverses the visible face of the star. Not all stars have such features, and so this method is only applicable to those that do.

Now, take two stars which have the same rate of spin but different diameters. The spectral lines emitted by the larger star will be more "smeared" from Doppler shift at its limbs than the smaller star, because its circumference is travelling at a greater tangential velocity. Now assume both stars have a feature, such as a hot spot, having a different brightness than the rest of the star. The feature will remain in view the same amount of time for both stars, as their angular rates are the same. But because of the greater Doppler shift in the larger star, its spectral lines will be broader.

Both measurements are required because the smaller star could conceivably spin at a higher rate, causing its spectral lines to broaden to the same degree as a larger, but slower-spinning, star. But if the star is spinning faster, the feature won't remain in view as long. The intensity profile comes into play at this point to estimate the star's angular rate, and the Doppler shift gives the star's tangential velocity due to its angular rate and its circumference. With both measurements in hand, the star's diameter can be estimated.

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Hi Europium, do you say that the hot spot does not change the stellar spectrum?

I agree with what you said, but I would have thought that the spectrum also changes...

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Hot spots - and cool ones - do change the stellar spectrum, but it is not the spectrum of the feature as such that is of interest insofar as these measurements are concerned... -e

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03/10/2007 11:15 PM

Hi Jorrie,

I appreciate your comments and also euphorium's explanation. You wrote:

They surely could not resolve the angle that the star spans in the 1920s?

I think I got that from the book The Universe by Isaac Asimov, which is not in my possesion. I do own the Larousse Encyclopedia of Astronomy, revised in 1967, which talks about estimating the size of stars from the apparent brightness and the surface temperature. It goes on to say:

"...the general accuracy of these results has been confirmed by the interferometric method (chapter 19), developed by the American physicist Michelson, which yields a direct measurement of some of the larger stars... A third method of determining the linear sizes of the stars consists of the analysis of the light curves and radial velocities of eclipsing variables..."

On page 338 is a table of measured stars. The smallest one shown measured by interferometry is 23 times the size of the sun, so I think that is about the limit. One that is 0.9X of the sun was "derived from the light curves of eclipsing binaries."

It is surprising how long ago these things were done. Well, it's late, so lets talk later.

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03/11/2007 1:52 AM

Hi StandardsGuy, you wrote: "On page 338 is a table of measured stars. The smallest one shown measured by interferometry is 23 times the size of the sun, so I think that is about the limit. One that is 0.9X of the sun was "derived from the light curves of eclipsing binaries."

Yep, I think it is only the direct imaging of the surface of a star that took until very late 20th century. I was unaware of these early developments and appreciate your inputs (and Europium's). Tx!

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03/14/2007 11:41 PM

Our sun's rim, by the way, spins faster than it's polars, meaning, the core seem to be dragged by the outer layers, I was surprised to hear

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Stars and gas giants (like Jupiter and Saturn) are seen to rotate differentially with the angular velocity ideally constant on cylindrical surfaces parallel to the rotation axis. Where these cylinders subtend the body's surface, the surface also rotates differentially and so the circumference spins at an angular rate which is some function of the latitude. Consequently, the distribution of Doppler shifts within the "smeared" spectrum is weighted differently than would be seen in a solid body, where the distribution would be a simple function of the cosine of the latitude.

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03/17/2007 2:30 PM

It would then mean that Doppler measurements of spinning stars are hard to determine. Sol's surface is 6000 kelvin but it's corona soars into the millions, and it's on a continuous spectrum

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Yes and no. Yes, stars do emit a continuous spectrum, but not exclusively and no, Doppler measurements of stellar spectra are not hard to determine, because of brightness differences between the continuous and discrete spectra. Both bright (emission) and dark (absorption) spectra are observed in stars. It is actually quite easy to determine the constituent elements of st