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Why Aren't Tech Companies Hiring?

Posted November 17, 2010 7:23 AM

In spite of the poor economy, most tech companies seem to have solid balance sheets and lots of cash. That being the case, why aren't tech companies hiring? Many say that high-tech companies are biding their time to see if the economy does a "double dip" and slides back into recession. But, won't that put us even further behind in innovation and product development once the economy does get going? What do you think will motivate tech companies to start hiring engineers again?

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11/17/2010 9:04 AM

"But, won't that put us even further behind in innovation and product development once the economy does get going?"

The answer is simple. Any company worth its salt puts its own survival and profit first. It's called the bottom line!

Why would company XYZ start hiring employees just so that the US doesn't loose innovation at the cost of staying in business? That is akin to criticizing a family of four for putting food on their table instead of taking out a loan to build a home addition just so the local contractor has something to do.

"What do you think will motivate tech companies to start hiring engineers again?"

Well, what about increased sales? Wouldn't that do it?

I am sure the original poster meant well, but the context of that post begs the question if a course in free enterprise and economics would not be beneficial.

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11/18/2010 3:45 AM

But since these companies have forced wages so low, with there endless moaning about the cost of labour and how cheap it is abroad. Just so they can line they're pockets with big profits. This has created a huge wealth gap and, unfortunately the balance is falling on the unwealthy side. By this I mean there are alot more poor people in the world than rich. This mass of people are these companies prospective customers. But they have no money to spend and with energy cost sky rocketing (they're going in for the kill), people are tightening they're belts even further. What rich person would want to buy your run of the mill FORD, GM etc. caror any other product for that matter. They want the prestige makes. Where has the balance gone, greed has tipped this balance in favour of the rich. There is too much emphasis on the stock market, where people expect to make lots of easy money.

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11/18/2010 8:05 AM

Wow. Where to start?

You wrote, "But since these companies have forced wages so low, with there endless moaning about the cost of labour and how cheap it is abroad."

This is not companies forcing wages. This has to do with how countries manage their currency and the exchange rates between them.

You wrote, "Just so they can line they're pockets with big profits."

What, in your mind, do you think companies are supposed to do? Free enterprise is a state where people do things for something called profit.

Another myth that is propagating the world is that these big companies are making so much money that it is obscene!

Again, this is anti-capitalism preying on ignorance. The big companies are publicly traded and as such must have open books for stockholders to see. Any company that makes obscene profits would become an investor gold mine where people buy stock like crazy. Very few companies do this and they don't do this very long. Look at Google for an example of this.

You wrote, "This has created a huge wealth gap and, unfortunately the balance is falling on the unwealthy side."

Again, ignorance prevails. You need only to look at history to see what is really happening. If you look at populations 500 years ago, the gap was relatively narrow, but in the grand scheme of things, everyone was poor! Yes, there were super rich barons and kings, but not very many. The quality of life was very poor and it stayed that way for another 300 years. Economic growth was mainly non-existent, so families had nothing better to look forward to generation after generation.

For most everybody it boiled down to this; either you had a job that was horrible or you had no job at all. If you had a job you most likely had no luxuries and you did not need them because you spent all your waking hours working for survival.

After the 1800's things began to pick up due to industrialization. There was time to actually enjoy luxury and everyone saw an increase in standards of living in the developing countries.

Now here we are today and the rhetoric is that the gap between rich and poor is widening. Well, duh! However, let's look at the poor in the US. How many poor people in undeveloped nations have cars, high definition TVs, MP3 players, cable, internet, cell phones, food, and leisure time? Okay, so it's a used car and the TV might not be 80", but the point is, that the threshold for poor in the US is equivalent to living like kings 500 years ago.

Yes, the rich are getting richer, but the poor are not getting poorer, they are getting richer, too, and at a pretty good clip. So, why is that bad?

If you think that living 500 years ago is better because of a narrower gap, have at it. There are places on this planet that still exist there and it might help put things in context if you really lived in abject poverty.

You wrote, "By this I mean there are alot more poor people in the world than rich."

When in the history of Earth has that been any different?

You wrote, "But they have no money to spend and with energy cost sky rocketing (they're going in for the kill)"

Show me the data for that one. You have evidence that corporations are trying to make people poor? Do you believe the mission of utility companies is to bankrupt their customers, too?

Yes, we have a downturn economy and the government seems to have made some bad choices on how to help us out of it (but then again, they did a good job helping us into it), but such is the nature of life and economy.

You wrote, "There is too much emphasis on the stock market, where people expect to make lots of easy money."

Wow! You got that right. I agree with you there.

Be careful what you read. Most of it is propaganda.

Propaganda is the art of taking a few kernels of truth, rolling them into a turd, and serving it to the world as a brownie.

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11/18/2010 10:10 AM

GA Hero!

People forget that the purpose of business is to make money. They do that by supplying a product that people want at a price that is affordable and of good value to those same people.

Those "filthy rich" (whom this present administration, and many other entitlement- minded people, wants to castigate) have, for the most part, worked hard for their money and are the ones who have taken the risk of time, effort and money to build businesses that hire people and manufacture goods or provide services.

As far as whether companies should hire now; there are soooo many unknown factors that impact their ability to make good economic decisions. If you don't know; what the tax rates will be, what kind of requirements (being rammed down our throats) there will be for health care for employees, extreme environmental guidelines etc. ad infinitum; you would be stupid to expand in most markets. There are segments that are growing but overall the business base is backwardly moving or stagnant at best because of governmental uncertainty.

The term "double-dip recession" probably isn't correct because that means that there was an end to the first recession. That isn't so. We haven't had a recovery yet, and pouring hundreds of billions of non-existent dollars down a hole hasn't helped but has greatly hurt our country's economic ability to correct itself.

The gap between the "rich" and the "poor" is mostly a result of choices people make. The poor typically, not all, have a "I want it now" mentality and consequently get bogged down with consumer credit. Albert Einstein calls the power of compounding "the eighth wonder of the world", and he is correct. People don't have long-term vision of what they want to accomplish, the sense of delayed gratification to make it happen or understand the power of compounding, either with credit interest working against you, or saving/investment interest working for you. You also have the factor of what people do with oppurtunity that presents itself. Most people are too lazy to do whatever it takes to succeed financially. "The TV is so loud they don't hear oppurtunity knock". It really is a problem with the information that people choose to take in; does it promote personal growth and motivation or does it entrap them in entitlement mentality and personal, immediate gratification.

This "I want it now" mentality also shows up in government welfare programs, union mentality of "I deserve this", regardless of whether I have worked hard enough to deserve it. The entitlement mentality.

Once people realize that "life isn't fair" and that the only way for them to succeed financially is to work hard, with financial disciplines in place, over a period of time, with the type of vehicle/industry that can provide the finances that will help them accomplish great things, they will be well on their way.

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11/18/2010 12:28 PM

Seems we can't avoid a little economic and social philosophy in a discussion like this.

I recall that back in the 1970s, I was taking some background courses at a local Junior College. In the business class one day the group got fired up by the somewhat liberal instructor. He was outraged that a large corporation had for the first time made a Billion Dollars in one quarter.

I had to remind them that the company was, "THE PHONE COMPANY, " who back in those days was in nearly every home and business in the United States. If they made $10 per quarter per customer, they would certainly reach a Billion Dollars.

With companies active both nationally and internationally the sheer size of the markets allows even those with small market share to have huge sales volumes and profits measured in millions and billions.

Think of Steve Jobs at Apple, a business that has a small share of the personal computer business. Even before the Ipod, Ipad and Iphone the business was of a size that anyone would love.

With these large companies, CEOs and major executive will be well paid. Some will say too well paid, but often they are treated like star athletes in Professional sports

They get paid that much because that it was it takes to get them to work for you.

The Professional Athletes are getting paid huge dollars, because their agents are able to get the teams to pay that much, or another team will pay.

Let's get our financial systems back in shape, taxing methods defined, governmental attitudes a bit more supportive and you will see investment and business and job growth.

Will it be, "FAIR," to all ? No system will be considered by all to be,"FAIR!"

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11/18/2010 5:16 PM

GA to you both.

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11/17/2010 9:12 AM
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11/17/2010 11:10 AM

GA That pretty much sums it up.

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11/19/2010 8:50 AM

GA. I was going to write a post listing the exact same items but the video brings the point(s) home perfectly.

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11/18/2010 12:40 AM

If Tech companies are doing fairly well why would you want to hire anybody in this economy? You know that old classic from the Steve Miller Band "Go on take the money and run". And my experience is a company will not work on a new development in bad times if they already have a hardware platform that is working for them. They just throw software at it and make all kinds of new products out of it. I saw this happen at my old company St. Jude Medical. I developed a hardware platform for Cardiac Pacemakers and it runs using microprocessor software. They made a dozen or so products after 13 years since I was downsized. The original product is still being sold! This is unheard of in the Medical Business. I did too good a job and as a thank you they downsized me AFTER finishing the design which was my invention. But I feel good about it that it is still helping people after a decade and other products were developed because of using a platform. Developing chips (ASICS) is expensive. Software is cheap and that is how a company can cut back and still make a profit.

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11/18/2010 3:52 AM

But Japenese companies have always had the policy of developing and expanding in hard times. Because equipment and services are normally cheaper, as people cut they're profit margins. And they know they'll come out of the hard times in a better position. I thought you Americans were suppose to be a very positive nation, but this sounds as if your taking a very negative view/stance.

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11/18/2010 5:23 AM

You can maintain your view on Americans but who in very hard times overcame. i CAN THINK OF SEVERAL. The British were beat back to England when the colonies were just forming, The Civil War, World War I, Word War II, The Cuban Missile Crisis and what about the current problems it is not just the USA look around you it is an economical crisis World Wide. Why do you think Gold and Silver are doing so well? Because World Wide currency is becoming confederate money.

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11/18/2010 7:51 AM

For your kind information Tata Consulting Engineers (TCS) India is going to hire 50,000 techies globally in near future.

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11/18/2010 11:55 AM

It seems to me that "tech companies" covers a lot of ground - many industries, sectors, subsectors, and technologies, each with their own economic story. I wouldn't expect a simple answer here.

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11/18/2010 11:59 AM

Among the other reasons put up here, primarily the future is not clear, there are some 'HR' reasons.

Turns out that they are sitting in the sidelines watching one another. Companies have let go of people, increased scope of work, and overloaded the employees. Here is the typical response if you ask why they are not hiring:

a) Look around.. no one is hiring !!

b) Attrition rates are low and no one is complaining (lest they get fired) so morale is not a burning issue.

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