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DIY Laser Light Show Projector

Posted June 28, 2012 8:10 AM by frankd20

Laser light shows can be pretty impressive. I was curious about how these shows are done, so I thought I would try to create one of my own. Below are the steps I took to design my own mini light show. I think laser light shows are neat, not that I have seen a lot of them, but when I have they are impressive. I started thinking about how these shows are done and decided to try something simple.

I took two dead hard drives and cut out the section that controls the drive heads, replacing it with mirrors. I then connected these voice coils to my computer speakers and aimed a laser on it. Playing audio did create some patterns but nothing that cool. So I found some software that generates audio in order to create random patterns for this type of laser setup. While the concept was cool and it was fun to play with, I wanted more and this was only a proof of concept.

I spent some time researching and looking at project designs, software and how laser shows are done. I learned that the devices I need are galvanometer laser scanners, which are basically voice coils with low inertia and a position feedback mechanism. I found designs on how to make them and the results I would get, but decided it was best to buy them for this purpose. For those that don't know different scanners have different speeds given in kilo points per second or kpps and start around 10k and go up to 50k or more. I found some 20Kpps laser scanners with the electronics to drive them for a decent price and ordered them.

The next thing I considered is how to connect these scanners to a computer. You need a DAC to send analog signals to the mirrors and the lasers. As it turns out the DAC's for laser projects aren't that cheap and go from about $200 up to thousands. I settled on a more DIY design which uses a USB sound card and a circuit to adjust the offset and peak voltages to get a 0 to 5 volt output. This design gives you an output that is compatible with the ILDA (International Laser Display Association) which is what the scanners use as an input.

And of course, you need the lasers and the circuit to drive them. I did some more searching and opted for simple diode lasers. I also found a design for an analog driver for them. In this case analog is better than digital or TTL as it allows you a larger color pallet.

After I got all these parts, I put them in a box and they sat for a while until my inspiration came back.

I started building what I call the light engine. This is the part where the three lasers, red green and blue (in my case violet due to price), are mounted so that they combine into one beam using dichroic filters to pass and reflect the lasers. This single beam, which looks white, has to hit the first mirror of the galvanometer scanner and then bounce off the second one and go out. I made an aluminum frame that would hold the lasers and also act as a mount and heat sink for the laser driver. It took a while to get everything mounted and aligned but it worked and I got a white beam.

The hard part after this was getting it all in a box, and because I wanted it to fit in a box I had it was not easy and took some time to figure out where everything was going to go. I also wanted the sound card DAC in the same box (although most laser shows don't have that built in.) I put a connector for an external DAC as well if ever I want to use one.

When I was done I tested it and it worked, not that I didn't have any issues, such as burning out the violet laser due to over driving it, but that is the benefit of building it yourself, you know how to fix it.

Once the actual device was made, I figured out the software. You can start out with free software and go up to software costing thousands of dollars. So far I have only been using free software. The one I have found the most useful is called LFI Player, which has a lot of hidden features. I have also gotten it to work with some software called HE laserscan. I have some other software to try but I am considering buying some lower priced software depending on what I can do with what I have.

It has been a fun project with some cool results, although for the most part no practical use other than its coolness factor.

The CR4 picture above is an actual picture of the output from my projector. You can check out more pictures here and see a video of my projector in action here.

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Re: DIY Laser Light Show Projector

06/28/2012 9:10 AM

I had started to build one of these, from scratch. Years ago.

using a HENE laser and galvanometer and purchased some ancient control software that ran on a commodore computer........unfortunately, the time for me to finish was limited that the project was shelved.

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06/28/2012 9:58 AM

I put in my blog "After I got all these parts, I put them in a box and they sat for a while until my inspiration came back." in reality that while was a little over a year. I am just glad I finally got around to finishing it and my wife didn't throw any of the parts out while they were sitting(although she did complain about them once or twice). Now that it is done she thinks it's cool.

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06/28/2012 10:07 AM

Actually I was amused about that, that it must be a common thing.

I built the laser from a not so complete kit. By biggest issues I had, was I tried to make work the interface with the commodore outlet signals were sporatic. Which let me to believe it may have been the software issues. My reason for building it is to get myself familiar with the project but my I felt my skills set was not suffcient,

I tend to set goals, I think I can make.........maybe....eventually.......

Yes, I agree with your wife, that is a cool project. I tip my hat to you sir.

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06/28/2012 9:23 AM

Impressive!

I agree, a coolness factor of about 7.9.

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06/29/2012 1:49 AM

Champion effort!

Just for fun is good.

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06/29/2012 4:32 AM

A friend in the early 1980's mounted surface reflective mirrors on speaker cone centers, (left and right stereo), which were set on the X and Y axis to reflect and direct the laser beam. We played tones from an audio osc. and also from a synthesizer as well as from some tapes we made up. We got some beautiful, although basic, mandala type patterns and other surprising shapes.

Nowhere near what you're doing now. We had fun and he went on to establish a holographic production company. Much success to you with fun and knowledge!

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06/29/2012 9:31 AM

That sounds about like what I got out of the hard drive voice coil setup, I thought about using speaker voice coils also but I had the dead hard drives on hand. It was cool, but I wanted more than random patterns. I also thought about building my own galvanometers I found a link from someone who did http://elm-chan.org/works/vlp/report_e.html but buying a set with controllers was under $100 for 20kpps and the results would be better than I could make.

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06/29/2012 1:53 PM

I used subscribed to a electronics magazine....I think thats what it was called. 'Electronics', that had a simular project in their article that resembled that.

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07/24/2012 3:55 PM

Congratulations on your accomplishment. Persistence pays off.

For those of you that would like to build your own full color laser projector , I wrote an E-book available here " http://www.sniffinfo.com "

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07/26/2012 2:26 PM

I looked at your website (bit of a shameless plug however), I have considered making a lumia wheel, after I saw someone on a laser forum had links to an obelisk project that did look really neat

Going back to the laser projector what software do you use? I did end up buying dr lava's lasercam software to play with for video but otherwise I am using free software. I want to interface some other lighting devices/software with the laser show and I don't see anything that will do that. I think I am going to end up interfacing lfi player with vixen lighting software which doesn't look too hard to do.

While I don't know what is in your book, I will say that I found plenty of info online on how to do this and can't imagine paying for info that is freely available. For me it was simply finding the time to do it that was my limitation.

Also by design for legal reasons my projector is quite low in power (but made to be easy to upgrade) I see you say on your site you do laser shows for charities and fundraisers. How do you deal with the legalities of this, as I believe laser shows need certain approvals (variance) as well as the equipment needing to be FDA approved which a home built one while it could be made in compliance with the rules, is still not approved.

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07/26/2012 3:14 PM

I use Pangolin LD2000 laser controller and software but a basic version at $2495 US a pop, is probably out of your budget. I have also used Norm's laser show controller which is similar to Pangolin's FB3, designed to suit DJ's. And prior to that I used a modified Amiga 500 PC and freebie software from Pangolin as my lasershow controller.

Since I live in Canada I don't have the FDA/CDRH and their draconian rules to control my activities. I never do any audience scanning, since who wants to risk getting sued and I still have to file a report to get outdoor laser show approvals from Health Canada and Transport Canada (even for terminated laser projections).

If you want to learn more about lumia effects I have a free downloadable tutorial on how to make your own lumia wheel at my website http://www.sniffinfo.com

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07/26/2012 3:30 PM

Yes $2500 is way out of my budget, and I think you need to use Pangolin's DAC as well. I had considered spaghetti for $100 but it still doesn't do everything I want. I did find a early and somewhat buggy copy of wet noodles for live shows from the same maker of spaghetti which I did get to work. I had contacted the programmer of LFI player to figure out how to control it via serial commands, so I can use that set of commands to interface with other software.

I saw the instructions on your site, but I had already looked into the lumia wheel so have a very good idea of how to do that. I like the idea of using it with optics to make a line laser like done for the obelisk.

I don't know that I will ever do any public shows, my project was more for my own amusement. Due to the rules and regs even with something under 5mW I would still be afraid of using it in public.

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