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The Real 2012 Election: Oil vs. Latex Paints

Posted August 16, 2012 9:32 AM by HUSH

Note: This is NOT a blog promoting a political agenda. All allusions to politics are purely for entertainment, so keep your non-paint opinions to yourself!

It's the debate that has lasted far too long, and puts friends and family at permanent odds. It has caused divorces, bankruptcies, and even fistfights amongst nuns.

What debate am I referring to? It's not the existential man vs. woman examination, the adorable puppies vs. babies argument, or the delicious burger vs. hot dog dispute. (Where do I stand on the issues this election season? Women; puppies; and burgers. Here here!)

Nope. It's latex vs. oil. Paint that is. Just paint, okay?

Yours truly knows his way around a roller tray, with sections on my resume including stints as a painter, as well as a paint salesman. Naturally I have a predisposition, but I'll offer my best non-partisan take to provide you--the voter--with the facts needed to make an educated choice.

No amount of buttons can stop me from delivering the facts!...via Freedom's Phoenix

Paint History

Last year, South African archeologists discovered the remnants of a paint-production process estimated to be 100,000 years old. Uncovering new rock layers in a cave already known to be an anthropological goldmine, researchers discovered seashells that had been dyed red from ocher, a clay that is red in color from naturally occurring hematite. The ocher and animals bones were ground and heated, releasing marrow. After adding some urine, cave-folks found they had a spreadable paste.

...via Freddy and Petunia

Paint has been used henceforth, from early stick figures and maps--to the Italian Renaissance--to discussing with your wife what color to paint the den. No, not white. How about artic white? Or off-white, or pure white, or cream white, or toned white, or…..

Painting: so easy a caveman can do it. Or a politician… *rimshot*


Binders (of Paints!)

The binder is the most important component of the paint, as it is responsible for the sheen level (flat, matte, eggshell, gloss, etc.), adhesion, and durability. While we can obviously rattle on for days about different binder types, let's keep this simple and keep the discussion between latex and oil. (See how I glazed right over voting alternatives? Just like two-party politics! Burrrrn!)

The Candidates: Oil and Latex

The first thing you notice about oil paint is the smell. It has a decidedly heavy odor, and good ventilation must be provided during application. Smell is decidedly in favor of latex paint; with a mild aroma it still requires ventilation. Preparation is higher in degree when working with oil paints, and thinning must be done with turpentine or mineral spirits. Latex only requires water.

"He's only smiling until he sees the divorce papers," she was reported as saying...via Shelby Paint

Whatever is being painted is obviously a consideration. Oil paints work best on metal, bare wood, and dirty surfaces. Latex paint, is a water-based film, so it swells wood grain and when dried, cannot offer the flexible coating desirable for metal surfaces. Oil also has a smoother, more finished appearance when dry. Oil-based paint also offers a higher degree of durability, though it has a shorter service life--it discolors and peels far quicker than latex. Latex paint dries about 85% faster than oil paints and it is perfect for non-traffic areas, including exteriors.

Oil paint and its associated solvents are toxic in nature, so government restrictions (aghhh!) apply to their disposal. Even long-cured latex paint is removable with just warm water and soap.

The Choice

Your vote depends largely upon your material, traffic needs, and skill level. Latex paint is perfect for the weekend DIYer, and even most professional painters use latex on prepared drywall and plaster.

I think P. Diddy may be taking this whole paint thing a little too far...via Huff Post

No matter your choice though, there is no right or wrong. It's about being a part of the democratic process! It's your CR4 civic duty!

Voice your vote in the responses below!

Resources

My brain

HG TV - Painting 101: Oil or Latex

Home Addition Plus: Oil Based Paint versus Latex Based Paint

Wikipedia - Paint

Live Science - Oldest Human Paint-Making Studio Discover in Cave

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Re: The Real 2012 Election: Oil vs. Latex Paints

08/16/2012 11:55 PM

Oil:

They took all the good stuff (bad for us) out of oil-base paint so it is not a viable option any more for exterior finish coats.

It is great for molding and trim inside because of its durability, though it does take a while to dry. For high gloss finishes it can't be beat. It spreads easily (use a china bristle brush), has excellent surface adhesion, and a little goes a long way, but it will run if applied too heavy, the fumes will kill you (or as the can says 'cause brain and nervous system damage', so.....no matter how much ventilation you think you have, use an exhaust fan, wear a respirator that filters organic vapors, and take frequent breaks outside) and if you get it where it shouldn't be, like carpet, it's a real pain (drops, paper, tape and plastic are your friend and some mineral spirits with a clean rag can save the day).

Latex:

Acrylic latex (water-based) is excellent for exterior finishes. It will resist UV-rays and weather for 30 or more years. It will eventually cure very hard. It is thick and will withstand running even when a heavy coat is applied. Do not be tempted to thin it, you will just have a drippy mess.

Latex is pretty much the standard for interior/drywall. Flat finishes will hide imperfections well but it's harder to keep clean (good for ceilings and lightly used rooms) and satins and semigloss can resist a little scrubbing, but will show surface defects more readily. Eggshell is a happy medium and well suited for most rooms. For kitchens and baths an interior acrylic latex will handle moisture and frequent cleaning better.

Primer:

Here there is no contest. Oil-based primer is the best. There are formulas for interior and exterior applications. They will handle oil or water-based top coats and are better at surface adhesion and stain blocking. But like oil-based paint, they will kill you, or at least drop your IQ a few points. Use with massive amounts of ventilation, respirator, and take more breaks than you think you need. When you walk back in after some fresh air, you will get a better idea how strong the fumes are.

Oil or water? I guess my vote is....it depends! But to be honest surface preparation is most of the paint job. When you start painting, you are almost done! Oh, also never paint over oil with latex! That all.

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08/17/2012 12:15 AM

I almost forgot the most important part. When electing a paint to use in the U.S., it's best if both of the ingredients that made the paint are also from the U.S.

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08/17/2012 7:07 AM

Dont remind me about domestic paints. Few months back I got my house painted @ $1500, rate is $ 0.5/sq.feet This includes walls doors & ceilings etc. Here we do not paint house ourselvesit is done by the contractors provided by paint companies. Paint was 'Asian' Make Luster acrylic water based paint for walls ceilings and oil paint for doors and windows.

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08/17/2012 4:12 PM

Paint tasted better when it had lead in it, that's for sure!

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08/20/2012 2:48 AM

Semper→Nunquam

Is this a Doorman's Chick change?

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08/20/2012 9:43 AM

"Semper→Nunquam Is this a Doorman's Chick change?"

Indeed, Doorman's Chick plays a pivotal role in this change.

It appears that the Quixotic Chick Magnet project I had been pursuing may have actually borne fruit. The Board at LynDoor™ Industries is considering the inclusion of a Chick Magnet conversion kit for the Chevrolet Cavalier in our next catalog. Watch the pages of CR4 of this exciting product offering.

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Re: The Real 2012 Election: Oil vs. Latex Paints

08/18/2012 10:45 AM

This is almost a moot question. We are becoming a one party paint world.

Acrylic (latex) paint is rapidly becoming the only choice. Advances made in chemistry and processes have made oil based paints obsolete.

Cost: Oil based paints are MUCH more expensive than water based paints.

Durability: Except in some extreme applications, it's equal.

Ease of use: Hands down acrylic.

Clean-up: Acrylic.

Outdoor durability: Equal.

Safety: Acrylic

Home use: Acrylic

My vote is for acrylic!

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08/18/2012 2:40 PM

I don't think that Rembrandt painted with latex or acrylics, or even watercolors. Maybe Kramarat knows....

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