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Report: NSA Can Record, Store Phone Conversations Of Whole Countries

Posted March 19, 2014 8:59 AM

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Based on documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, the Washington Post reports the U.S. has the capability to record "100 percent" of a country's phone calls.

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03/19/2014 10:39 AM

Obama said "the United States is not spying on ordinary people who don't threaten our national security and that we take their privacy concerns into account in our policies and procedures."
Someone, anyone please define"Ordinary people".

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03/19/2014 2:20 PM

Someone, anyone please define"Ordinary people".

An ordinary person is classified as NOT a "person of interest".

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03/19/2014 2:24 PM

A senior manager for the program compares it to a time machine - one that can replay the voices from any call without requiring that a person be identified in advance for surveillance.

We in the real world call it an audio recording device.

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03/19/2014 2:38 PM

An ordinary person is classified as NOT a "person of interest".It appears to me that we ALL are a "person of interest".

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03/19/2014 11:53 PM

Of course.

I would be willing to bet that everything we have been hearing about the NSA and its capability/capacity is only the tip of that black iceberg.

Worse yet is what is coming. I predict that in about 10 to 20 years the hot topic won't be what they have on historical record, but what they will be able to predict as far as future events...

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03/20/2014 5:51 AM

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/09/07/minority-report-fiction-has-become-reality/#.Uyq5CldrGSo

People are also so upset about the common core curriculum, that the data mining aspect of it is being lost in the noise.

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03/20/2014 9:14 AM

I believe it went "those who control the past controls the future, those who controls the future controls the present". Or something like that.

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03/21/2014 11:05 AM

Predict? My guess is that is here in some fashion already.

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More concerning to me is the continued willing relinquishment of ordinary skills. Being able to total a small purchase in your head and hand the cashier the exact change including tax, creates utter amazement these days. I don't think that was something that everyone did in the past, but it certainly wasn't dumbfounding in the past. I think responsibility can be put squarely on the ubiquity of calculators and calculating processes build into POS systems.

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I use to know at least 40 or 50 phone number by heart, and it wasn't that unusual. Now I know a few. I simply don't have a need to remember so many numbers because I don't need to remember the numbers to dial, again a downside of better technology. I try to offset this by making it a point to memorize things like my driver's license number, credit card numbers, banking routing numbers, etc.

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So here is the point I am getting at. I read a couple years bask that Microsoft was working on a system for mobile phones that would listen and evaluate conversations you were having...not necessarily with people over the phone, but just in the room. The technology was supposed to be able to accurately determine the number of people in the discussion with you and would evaluate what each person said, both through voice clues and by researching what they said on the internet, with the ultimate goal of telling you how trustworthy their comments are, i.e. what you should believe.

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If that skill gets passed over to phones for the sake of convenience, you don't have to worry about predicting, the power will be there to simply instruct.

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03/19/2014 11:50 PM

"they" have been doing this for years now.

It's just bigger now and will continue to grow.

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