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Cream or Sugar?

Posted February 03, 2017 2:00 PM by MaggieMc

Cream or Sugar?

As I sit here with my fourth cup of tea for the day, I’m feeling pretty pleased that I didn’t put any milk, sugar, or other “calories” in it thanks to research from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey.

The survey included 13,185 adults who reported drinking coffee and 6,215 who reported drinking tea in the 24 hours prior to being surveyed, according to an article from ScienceDaily. Those numbers amount to about 51 percent of U.S. adults drinking coffee and 26 drinking tea on any given day.

The study looked at more than just who drank coffee or tea, however. In addition, it considered what people add to their coffee and tea. Examples of add-ins were sugar (or sugar substitutes), cream (or cream substitutes), half and half, whole or reduced-fat milk, and honey.

Here at IEEE GlobalSpec, we have the most amazing coffee machine I’ve ever seen, and it has an abundance of options for how it will serve you your coffee. Most people seem to tend toward actual coffee, whereas I (if I’m drinking coffee) get the nearly-coffee-less French Vanilla that’s more sugar than coffee—but, I prefer my tea black.

It would seem I’m not alone in my “coffee” preferences, as the study found “many people prefer drinking coffee and tea with add-ins like sugar or cream” that are “dense in energy and fat but low in nutritional value.” While milk products might seem like they add value, the amount is negligible according to researchers, and sugary syrups offer us even less.

The study shows “those who drink their coffee black consume about 69 fewer total calories per day, on average, than those who add sweeteners, cream or other substances to their coffee.” Tea drinkers tended to add fewer “calorie-dense” substances to their tea, but those that did averaged about 43 more calories per day. The amount of calories seems tiny, but researchers say it can add up day after day—especially when we aren’t programmed to think about ‘drinking’ our calories.

All in all, the researchers don’t condemn drinking coffee with milk or sugar, they simply remind us to take those add-ins into account when managing our diets. So, bearing this information in mind, do you think you’ll add cream and sugar to your next cup of joe? Or pat yourself on the back for taking yours black?

Graphic Credit to ScienceDaily’s Julie McMahon

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02/03/2017 2:05 PM

Does whiskey count?

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02/03/2017 2:11 PM

It does look like it would amount to about the average number of calories added in, for coffee at least:

Only you can decide whether the calories are worth it!

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02/03/2017 2:19 PM

Just dipping my toe in for now. I can't really drink at work, but I work at drinking?

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02/03/2017 2:36 PM

Can't say I've ever seen whiskey count, but neither can I after 2.

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02/03/2017 6:06 PM

Oh, I can't drink whiskey, something about it makes me stupid, aggressive, and getting my butt kicked. I like vodka, my favorite is Crystal Head. https://www.crystalheadvodka.com/ourstory

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02/03/2017 7:52 PM

Wasn't that whiskey in your water, sugar in your tea?

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02/03/2017 8:15 PM

What's all these crazy questions you askin' me?
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Don't turn on the lights 'cause I don't want to see

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02/06/2017 2:12 PM

BINGO! Yeah, I'm that old.

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02/06/2017 2:44 PM

I tried that with beer once. I got ten feet tall, and mostly bullet proof. Then I decided to defend myself against a mountain of a man (really only as big and wide as a door), and proceeded to injure myself severely by having my round-house kick caught in mid-air.

I stepped off the curb, broke my right ankle, bounced my head off the bumper of my own truck, then proceeded to lose the fight majorly. Being curled up in a ball and being used for soccer practice by bouncing off the wall of the bar is no way to fight.

Good thing I had friends there that convinced Godzilla that if he didn't let up, he might knock down the wall.

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02/06/2017 3:49 PM

Pshaw! A mere whippersnapper!

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Guess who then was the whip?

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02/06/2017 3:59 PM

I dunno but these days it's tough even to get a proper caning.

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02/04/2017 4:21 PM

No sugar tonight in my coffee
No sugar tonight in my tea
No sugar to stand beside me
No sugar to run with me

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02/04/2017 5:11 PM

Where were we when these two were flying.

Side note: I'm watching all those spectators suffer in the 75° F weather at the Phoenix Open.

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02/04/2017 5:14 PM

Oh? When did they start playing the Phoenix Open at 3 AM?

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02/04/2017 5:22 PM

"Where were we when these two were flying."

On the ground, wistfully looking up...

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02/03/2017 4:35 PM

I just drink water with some ascorbic acid powder added....seems to give the same effect....

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02/03/2017 11:07 PM

I find it interesting that. according to this, the average person adds more to coffee than to tea. I nearly always drink my coffee black, but I gotta have a little sweetener in most teas.

Now if it's in the evening, I do like to "fix" either one with a little brandy or rum...

For what it's worth, I don't notice any effect from the caffeine of either one; they're just pleasant ways to stay hydrated. In fact the last few days, my evening drink has been hot cider...

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02/03/2017 11:22 PM

I seldom drink alcohol, but on occasion I do enjoy some Bailey's in my coffee. Used to drink tea regularly - with loads of sugar in it - back in my 20s and 30s, but never really gained weight from that. More of a coffee drinker today, with hazelnut creamer, but you'll never see me turn down a cup of hot cider with a bit of cloves and a twist of cinnamon. Perfect cold-weather drink and, right now, it's colder than a well-digger's arse outside.

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" it's colder than a well diggers arse ".

May I suggest: Hot buttered rum (?)

Good for warming up on a chilly morn.

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Ooooh yeah....

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Hmm... I don't think I've ever tried it in the morning. Alcohol tends to make me sleepy, so I think I'll leave it for the evenings.

To me, it's not real HBR unless it's made with apple juice/cider.

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02/06/2017 8:31 AM

Perhaps the average is skewed because of the inclusion of non-black teas? I generally don't think to add sugar or honey to a green or fruit tea, although I know some do.

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02/04/2017 11:03 AM

While you "feel pretty pleased that I didn’t put any milk, sugar, or other “calories” in it ", I am going to feel pretty pleased when I do add those calories.

This thread from 2012 states I am most like a person from Bangladesh (I'm from the U.S.), because I was 6' 145 lbs. at the time. I will take all the calories I can get, thank you very much! During a recent bout with pneumonia, I slipped down to 128 lbs. which put me at a BMI of 17 - not good.

While the U.S. is an overweight nation, and there are a plethora of suggestions for losing weight - try find info on how to gain weight. Virtually non-existent.

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"While the U.S. is an overweight nation"

Sadly we've done it to ourselves. I seem to notice more fat women and their daughters than men, but maybe that's just me. Fast food, comfortable couches and sedentary lifestyles.

I can drink tea either way. Never hot, though.

I seldom drink coffee (high blood pressure) but when I do it is straight.

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" I seem to notice "

Glad to hear that your not a, Whoo hoo.

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The guy on the left is clearly undertall.

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02/05/2017 10:57 AM

Thanks SolarEagle. As a matter of fact, I am using one of the weight gain powders now to get back to a good healthy weight. Well, actually muscle and weight gain powder, designed more for body builders, but that works just as well.

And don't call me Shirley!

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No, that picture is more of a JOUST than a jest.

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There is plenty of info on how to gain weight. You can find it in the bookshop under 'Cookbooks.'

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I am drinking a cup of joe right now. I have a home expresso machine. I only put whole milk in my coffee.

Years ago, I made a delivery to one of the largest white table sugar companies in the U.S. , three things stood out at the factory, the large tank of sodium hypochlorite, the hundreds of rat traps and thousands of dead roaches.

I watched the production room and noticed that men with brooms were sweeping the floor and throwing the raw sugar plus everything else into the sugar manufacturing machines.

When I asked why they weren't throwing this stuff in the trash, I was told that after, " the process ", the final product would be safe for human consumption.

Needless to say, and after some gut wrenching, I decided to never use white or processed sugar again.

Now sure, I have had since that time, countless types of sweetened foods, that may have been made with processed sugar, made with dead roaches, rat droppings and what have you, but not consciously adding it to my food.

I read something years ago that the meat producers used to sweep the floors and throw the stuff into the meat grinders as well.

As for artificial whitening, I never liked that stuff, I mean why would anyone want to ruin a cup of coffee by putting in poly sorbate 60 and soybean oil and corn sugar solids into their coffee is beyond me.

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02/04/2017 1:58 PM

Only Honey for sweetening here, and 1/2+ 1/2 for creamer, in my coffee.

As far as alcohol....I don't drink any more..

...or any less....

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02/04/2017 4:08 PM

We've been using soy milk in our coffee. We prefer the Pearl Unsweetened and we don't add sugar. Vitasoy is our second choice.

Once we got used to the soymilk, we didn't like dairy. Most of the creamers today are soy milk solids. You used to get all kinds of junk in them. Sometimes I would make soy milk out of the creamer if I wasn't in the mood for coffee. Usually when I was stuck at meeting.

Every brand of soy milk is different. We had to experiment to find the ones we liked best.

I've also stsrted drinking chocolate soy milk. I read that athletes were drinking chocolate milk for a recovery beverage and that worked better than the manufactured drinks. Tasted better too.

Pearl is the best chocolate soy, hands down. They use real dutch chocolate.

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02/05/2017 12:12 PM

As i am a weight lifter i try to hold any sugar at a minimum. High protein, low sugar,carbs and calories. If i want sugar i eat oranges, strawberries or dark chocolate. BMI of 22.1, dead lift 464 lbs. During a workout i lift (total) 28,880 lbs. I am 68 yrs old, 5'6".

White sugar will kill you.

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Remind me never to make you mad at me.

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Ditto!

I'm a couple inches shorter, and lift less than a quarter of that amount.

And when I do lift anything heavy, it's in stages, and never above counter height.

Regarding the sugar: We have three hummingbird feeders. This time of year, there are few hummingbirds here, and they almost always went to one particular feeder. Recently, I didn't have any white sugar left to make their syrup, so I made it using unrefined coconut sugar, and filled one of the less-frequented feeders. I haven't seen a hummingbird at the previously favorite feeder (still filled with white sugar syrup) since then. A couple of days later, I threw out the old syrup from the other previously unwanted feeder, and put the remains of the coconut sugar syrup (filtered through a fine sieve, since mold had started to grow in it) in that feeder. The birds are now feeding at that feeder as well. It's been about a week since I first put out the coconut syrup, and I don't think I've seen a bird since then at the previously preferred feeder, still filled with relatively fresh white sugar syrup.

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02/05/2017 2:22 PM

I've got 5 inches on him, but he could drop me like a hot rock!

Side note OT:

I thought Hummers fought a lot, till I put up seed feeders.

The Peach Faced Love Birds squawk and fight almost as much as Hummers.

The finches just perch up in the tree and wait till the Love Birds are gone.

We had a great crash into our front window the other morning and when I went outside to investigate there was a Hawk or Kestrel sitting on the lawn. When he flew away, he had a bird in his claws. The feeders are about two feet from our front window.

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We seldom have enough hummers here to see them fighting. On the other hand, when my naturalist brother was alive in the foothills east of Fresno, he had 5 quart-sized feeders, and filled most of them daily! It wasn't at all difficult to see 15 or 20 birds at one time. There was commonly at least one feeder that lasted longer, because one or two bullies would keep the other birds away from that particular feeder.

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Maybe it means the birds are smarter than we are. In my case (and not to get OT) 3 years ago i was a sickly person, on several medications and then had a stroke about 2.5 years ago.

I just got tired of the whole loop (get ill, goto the doctor,get meds,still feel bad) i changed my diet , joined a gym and started working out every other day. Now i never get tired am off ALL meds and feel and look strong. Its nice , at my age, to have women stare and then smile. Problem is some of the guys do it too???

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Before you started lifting weights you were 6'2"?

In all seriousness mate, that's really awesome what you've done with your health, especially after having had a stroke. Quite inspiring actually.

Tell me, what do you typically use for protein and carbs? And what of your caloric intake?

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what do you typically use for protein and carbs? And what of your caloric intake?

Before workout 60g whey protein with creatine. After ,another 60g whey all in a protein shake. Breakfast is 3 eggs with beans and cheese with corn chips. Carbs are on the order of brown rice with corn and beans. Lots of fresh veggies and fruit. Lean red meat and fish. Peanut butter, without bread. Calories (daily) is between 2400 to 3000, depends if i am lifting that day. Un sweetened tea.

Weekly one hamburger with fries and 3 slices of pizza. Hamburger is lean grass feed beef. My body weight is around 137 lbs.

28000 lbs may sound like a lot, but on the seated leg press i do 4 sets, 10 reps of 250 lbs(10K lbs). So it adds up in total

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I noticed my skinny friends always seemed to order black coffee.

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Irish coffee seemed to help me get my truck fixed in bitter cold weather.

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02/06/2017 2:23 PM

When I brew Sensha or Matcha green tea. I drink it in it's pure form. Don't want anything to interfere with the flavor. When I brew Oolong I brew it strong and add cream and sugar.

We were ordering green tea directly from Japan. Being curious I went to satellite view and zoomed in as close as I could to the tea fields. They send me regular emails on how their product is doing.

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The Japanese in general are amazingly thoughtful people. Back in December my fiancee and her two girls were on holiday in Tokyo and stopped in a shop to ask for directions to the trains. A few minutes after they left the shop it started to rain and they didn't have umbrellas. A customer saw them, chased them down and gave them each a brand-new umbrella.

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