CR4® - The Engineer's Place for News and Discussion®


The Engineer's Notebook Blog

The Engineer's Notebook

The Engineer's Notebook is a shared blog for entries that don't fit into a specific CR4 blog. Topics may range from grammar to physics and could be research or or an individual's thoughts - like you'd jot down in a well-used notebook.

Previous in Blog: Which Type of Facebook User Are You?   Next in Blog: Thanks for the Memories, Alcohol!
Close
Close
Close
42 comments

Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

Posted July 22, 2017 12:00 AM by M-ReeD
Pathfinder Tags: bathroom design women

If you’ve ever spent time lurking around the bathrooms of your local bars and restaurants, you might be struck by two things: A.) Women stand in line to use the bathroom much too long and B.) Women often leave the bathroom chatting away with a new friend.

Now, thanks to scientists from Ghent University, no longer will those life-long friendships be forged while waiting in line to use the bathroom.

The Problem

According to the Ghent scientists, there are a variety of reasons contributing to the increased wait times outside of women’s bathrooms versus men’s rooms.

One reason: Because urinals occupy less space than a standard bathroom stall, there are fewer stalls to accommodate women.

Another cause is due to women typically outfitting themselves in complicated attire. If you’ve ever tried to remove a pair of uncooperative Spanx®, you know what I am talking about. It takes women longer to disrobe and then to subsequently…re-robe (?).

A third possible cause for the bottleneck at the bathroom, according to researchers, is a combination of the first two reasons with the added ingredient of everyone trying to occupy that space at once.

The Solution

Ghent researchers created six different bathroom design scenarios to address the issue, ultimately settling on a unisex design that offered two bathroom stalls for every one urinal.

According to their findings, researchers determined that the female wait time in the bathroom would be reduced from the average six minutes to less than a minute and a half (a 63-percent reduction) using the proposed design. Not only would the unisex bathroom design solve the waiting problem, it would also address, according to researchers, the headline-making issues affecting the transgender community.

Do you think a perfectly engineered bathroom will solve the issue of bathroom wait times?

Image credit: Lobster1 / CC BY-SA 3.0

Reply

Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Comments rated to be Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive ratings to make them "good answers".

Comments rated to be "almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, rate them!
2
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 19440
Good Answers: 1140
#1

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/22/2017 12:42 AM

The new generation has already adapted....

__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. A.E.
Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
3
Guru

Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 5806
Good Answers: 588
#2

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/22/2017 10:50 AM

Or you could just make the lady's room larger...

Reply Good Answer (Score 3)
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1202
Good Answers: 23
#33
In reply to #2

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 12:08 PM

My solution is simpler still. You don't have Men's and Women's. Instead you have Stand-Ups and Sit-Downs, with several more of the latter than the former. The trans-genders can make their own minds up which to visit.

As an aside: I visited a Welsh public lavatory once, where the designer had gone too far. Everything was stainless steel and set into the wall. The difficulty of deciding where to go first was solved by the helpful notices above some of the apparatus "This is not a washbasin".

Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#34
In reply to #33

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 12:13 PM

I saw a stick drawing cartoon depicting the urinal rules of what not to do once. It was about as disgusting (but hilariously funny to think that some might try that) as the urinal was.

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Optical Engineering - Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - Member Engineering Fields - Systems Engineering - Member

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Trantor
Posts: 5221
Good Answers: 622
#3

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/22/2017 10:55 AM

"Do you think a perfectly engineered bathroom will solve the issue of bathroom wait times?"

That's an odd question to ask on an engineering forum. Engineers design things to solve a problem or meet a need. If the goal of the design is to 'solve the issue of wait times' (for women trying to use a restroom), and you have come up with a 'perfectly engineered solution' to the problem, then the question you've posed is tautological. The answer is 'yes' because you've already answered your own question. If someone has a perfect solution, then 'No' cannot be an answer.

But step back. Can there be a 'perfect solution'? The answer to that question is probably 'No'. There is an uncountably large number of scenarios of women going to the restroom: she goes by herself, or with a friend (male, transgendered, female, non-gendered, Klingon, Wookie, ...) with a daughter, or son, or both, or with multiple children, someone in the group may be handicapped, etc. Now add in women of different cultures.

No, there really can not be a 'perfect solution'. So as Sherlock Holmes once said, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." So clearly, the only answer is to have women stay at home.

__________________
Whiskey, women -- and astrophysics. Because sometimes a problem can't be solved with just whiskey and women.
Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#17
In reply to #3

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 3:45 PM

Then the only bars would be gay.

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
3
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 19440
Good Answers: 1140
#4

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/22/2017 12:01 PM

Oh we solved this problem decades ago....

These eliminate all users except those with urgent needs, and those that refuse to use these, will stay home or leave early...

__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. A.E.
Reply Good Answer (Score 3)
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 19440
Good Answers: 1140
#5

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/22/2017 12:26 PM

Maybe we could just put fold down seats on the urinals....

__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. A.E.
Reply
Guru
Technical Fields - Technical Writing - New Member Engineering Fields - Marine Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vancleave, Ms about 30 miles inland from Biloxi and the coast
Posts: 3080
Good Answers: 103
#6
In reply to #5

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/22/2017 6:53 PM

.....But where would you put the tissue dispenser?

__________________
Mr.Ron from South Ms.
Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 19440
Good Answers: 1140
#7
In reply to #6

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/22/2017 7:49 PM

Well that's provided by the attendant of course.....

__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. A.E.
Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Lost Wages Nevada
Posts: 1515
Good Answers: 51
#32
In reply to #5

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 11:20 AM

But that means that that is ONE more seat they will complain about not being put down by neandertal men for their convenience!!!

__________________
Though it does seem he frequently has a Swiss Army knife or Leatherman and a roll of duct tape with him.
Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Rochester NY metro area
Posts: 224
Good Answers: 18
#8

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/23/2017 7:07 AM

Looking at the answers so far, this thread is sure to piss somebody off... so to speak.

jhammond

Reply
Associate

Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 28
Good Answers: 2
#9

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/23/2017 4:21 PM

Why do American's call a toilet a "bathroom", there is no bath in sight. Where did this come from?

Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Wherever my motorcycle has taken me!
Posts: 215
Good Answers: 12
#10
In reply to #9

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/23/2017 6:35 PM

Our "bathrooms" have toilets in them and yes, you can take a bath in them!

__________________
Common sense is an oxymoron and the world is full of morons. (I am not one of them)!!!
Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 19440
Good Answers: 1140
#13
In reply to #10

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 12:08 PM

Aahh the perfect bathroom....

__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. A.E.
Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#18
In reply to #9

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 3:46 PM

euphemism. Or there could be a bath, if you distract the fellow at the next urinal.

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru
United Kingdom - Member - Not a New Member Hobbies - Musician - New Member Hobbies - Fishing - New Member

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK. Going under cover.
Posts: 9575
Good Answers: 457
#41
In reply to #9

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/27/2017 5:54 AM

They also call them "restrooms". It's the last place I'd go for a rest!

__________________
"Love justice, you who rule the world" - Dante Alighieri
Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#42
In reply to #41

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/27/2017 9:17 AM

Yeah, pretty much, one does not want to fall asleep in any "rest" room, because one never knows what position one might wake up in, or how much discomfort there could be in certain regions.

Confucius say: "He who sleep in restroom be singing tinkle tinkle little star."

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru
Hobbies - DIY Welding - Wannabeabettawelda

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Annapolis, Maryland
Posts: 4206
Good Answers: 237
#11

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 1:16 AM

Back in the early nineties, I was stationed at Camp Colbern with the 304th Signal Battalion and lived in Seoul near Yongsan. I remember a fair number of the bathrooms were unisex. Nobody seemed to give it a second thought. All stalls in those unisex bathrooms with squat toilets.

Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#19
In reply to #11

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 3:47 PM

You can't say they don't have squat over there!

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
2
Guru
Hobbies - RC Aircraft - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 686
Good Answers: 9
#21
In reply to #11

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 11:05 PM

OK,

How do old people use those things? How do they stand back up?

I know if I squatted down to use that, I'd have to touch the floor (YUK!) to get back up!

Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#24
In reply to #21

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 8:55 AM

Old people, and the morbidly obese might have a problem.

You have to admit, this is better than a small circular hole in the floor to aim at.

The perfect bathroom should be like the holodeck on Star Trek:

  1. clothing optional
  2. all you see is natural surroundings
  3. you choose the scenery - no not beach girls in thongs.
  4. or OK, if you want beach girls, but when I am doing #2 that is the last thing
  5. your businesses get taken away by a robot that automatically swoops in behind you and plays "Johnny Bench". It can even help you with your position if needed, and lift assist afterward. Thanks you for your "business".
  6. if you are just going to the bathroom to hurl (opposing political view upset your tummy?), the robot still moves in, and takes care of "business", and takes care of all the clean-up, and dabs your face with a moist, cool or warm cloth.
  7. if just taking a bath or shower, the holodeck simulation provides a water fall, or pool experience, lighting options according to whim. Aroma therapy if desired. Drying off with a gentle sub-tropical breeze, no mildew fragrance towel.
  8. A snap of the fingers and you are back watching your favorite morning news, and finishing up your morning ablations before suiting up for work.
__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 19100
Good Answers: 339
#35
In reply to #21

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 2:30 PM

squatting isn't the problem,... its getting back up.

__________________
phoenix911
Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 19100
Good Answers: 339
#22
In reply to #11

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 7:07 AM

And now research has shown, Squatting is the most effective and natural form of bowel evacuation.

__________________
phoenix911
Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#26
In reply to #22

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 8:57 AM

Did research mention how the F*** one is supposed to get back up? ROFLMAO!

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 19100
Good Answers: 339
#36
In reply to #26

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 2:31 PM

you beat me to it on the post I just did before I read this... lol...

__________________
phoenix911
Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 117
#23
In reply to #11

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 7:20 AM

That photo is of a fairly nice 'squatter' toilet. Many don't have the extra high front guard. If you've ever hiked a long trip, it's the equivalent to using a cat-hole.

These toilets do take some practice. You need to somewhat aim correctly while typically facing the flush valve. Foot placement and torso angle is important. Mind your balance, you don't want to touch the floor. Or really, anything in these toilets as the sink is usually outside the bathroom, commonly between the men's and women's doors. Don't expect soap or paper towels near the sink either. Hand sanitizer is good to keep around. It is said that the squatting position is actually better than the sitting position for eliminating waste. I have no medical references for that and it really doesn't matter when this is all you have. Not all people can aim well and those near bar districts and popular public attractions can be...messy. Now you know one reason why Asians remove their shoes when entering a home.

I am surprised that there is toilet paper in this one. A majority of bathrooms, in China at least, you are required to take your own paper in. Thus the seemingly vast choices of travel size hand tissue packet brands in Chinese supermarkets.

Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#27
In reply to #23

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 8:59 AM

Gives a whole entire new meaning to urgency in the express line at the local grocery!

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 19100
Good Answers: 339
#12

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 7:55 AM

The best story I heard, was my girlfriends aunt was vacationing in North Carolina I believe, And she knew of a back woods antique shop she wanted to visit. The drove on a back gravel road for miles, nothing in sight,... then the antique shop appeared. in the middle of no where...

This would spook me a bit. Well, as it turns out,.. had to refresh relieve herself... so she went into the bathroom... and right in the middle of the bathroom was the toilet. right out in the up... strange at it was, she used it... all was going well, she did her business, until it came time to flush. when she did, she noticed there was no water in the bowl, and then she notice, the door in the corner, which was the stall...

Evidently, they were replacing the toilets, I don't know if that was the new one she used that wasn't quite installed, or the old one that they just replaced.

I can only guess about what the workmen was thinking when he came back from break to finish replacing the toilet.... I left for 10 minutes and someone already left a big donkey in the bowl when I came back.

__________________
phoenix911
Reply
Participant

Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 3
#28
In reply to #12

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 10:05 AM

I used to have an office across the street from a bar in Keansburg, NJ. For those of you who don't know anything about this town, most of the residents were in some state of inebriation and most of the family trees there had very few branches (in other words, this town had more winners of the "Darwin Award" than any other town that I've seen). The business next door was a salvage company that recycled old bathroom fixtures. One day the salvage business put out an old toilet for the trash to pick up, and a drunk from Keelen's bar across the street staggered over to it, disrobed himself of his pants and sat down and relieved himself in it.

Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#29
In reply to #28

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 10:40 AM

Mullet haircut? Wow!

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Civil Engineering - Member

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: ''but, don't we get PAID to ask questions?...''
Posts: 931
Good Answers: 11
#14

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 12:13 PM

Anyone previously offer an (all-in-one) solution of a urinal-shape on top, combined with a standard toilet-shape on the bottom, with the coverless seat (with the hinge on the side instead of the back), front-button-flushing, at a standard sit-down height, both using the same, single, standard toilet floor-drain, combined into a single porcelain fixture (between floor-to-ceiling dividers) ?...

Why not?...

__________________
''illigitimi non carborundum...'' (i.e.: don't let the fatherless ones grind you down...)
Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 19440
Good Answers: 1140
#15
In reply to #14

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 12:50 PM

haha,, could you make a drawing of that for us? Somehow I think the reason will then become obvious....

__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. A.E.
Reply
Guru
CR4 Admins - CR4 Moderator - CR4 Moderator United States - Member - New Member Popular Science - Cosmology - New Member Technical Fields - Education - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: East Greenbush, NY
Posts: 752
Good Answers: 14
#16

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 3:21 PM

A quarter-century ago (how frightening that is to realize) I was on a tour of the then-new Denver convention center. The feature that most impressed me was the flexibility of their restroom gender assignments. Convention center staff could assign some clusters of restrooms to men or women, depending on the gender composition of the convention. For example, when the American Library Association (or my division thereof), there would be more ladies' restrooms. This sounds like an early version of the solution Ghent University devised.

Reply
4
Guru

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South of Minot North Dakota
Posts: 8399
Good Answers: 771
#20

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/24/2017 5:21 PM

Take the mirrors out of the ladies rooms. That will speed things up by half or better right there.

Reply Good Answer (Score 4)
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#25
In reply to #20

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 8:56 AM

Vanity, O Vanity, we know thy name. Thy name art Womankind.

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru

Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 908
Good Answers: 44
#30

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 10:49 AM

Genesis of a new engineering discipline? Hergonomics.

Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#31
In reply to #30

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 10:56 AM

Priceless!

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
2
Member

Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 8
Good Answers: 2
#37

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/25/2017 5:16 PM

Well I don't see a diagram, but in general as a woman I prefer not to walk by a guy at a urinal.

I have worked at plants that were built in the 60's that had no female bathrooms. It was of course assumed that none would ever work there. When I used them, I found that men don't like me walking by them at the urinal either.

I have been to bars/restaurants that used an all stall/unisex format. It works OK but probably produces the quick turn time that seems to be desired. People don't seem to linger in unisex bathrooms period.

The issue of the toilet to urinal ratio has to be addressed of course if you want to reach the goal of no lines or waits.

__________________
Life through Logic
Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 19100
Good Answers: 339
#38
In reply to #37

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/26/2017 7:58 AM

When I used them, I found that men don't like me walking by them at the urinal either.

Stage Fright?

The Unisex bathroom, was interesting... the first I heard/saw of it was actually on a television series called LA Law.

I saw that somewhat amusing, having worked in the ship yard... if women found out,... they'd avoid using the bathroom at times after certain people... I know I did.

__________________
phoenix911
Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 13807
Good Answers: 155
#39
In reply to #37

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/26/2017 8:43 AM

Some men might be suffering from "urinal anxiety", and any such distraction might cause the process pipe to shut down, or they might not ever get the stream started in the first place, then where would they be?

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: at the beach in Florida
Posts: 19440
Good Answers: 1140
#40
In reply to #39

Re: Engineering the Perfect Bathroom

07/27/2017 12:47 AM

They have training urinals for that...

__________________
Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving. A.E.
Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Reply to Blog Entry 42 comments
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Comments rated to be Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive ratings to make them "good answers".

Comments rated to be "almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, rate them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

ArmyMarsGuy (1); BestInShow (1); Brave Sir Robin (1); convertwidget (1); GJM (1); James Stewart (12); jhammond (1); JohnDG (1); Jpfalt (1); MR. Guest (1); NSS (1); Original_Macgyver (1); phoenix911 (5); phph001 (1); Rixter (1); ronseto (1); SolarEagle (7); tcmtech (1); Torqued (1); Usbport (1); wmerryall (1)

Previous in Blog: Which Type of Facebook User Are You?   Next in Blog: Thanks for the Memories, Alcohol!

Advertisement