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Even More Good News for Booze Lovers the World Over

Posted August 12, 2017 12:00 AM by M-ReeD
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Recently, I wrote about how alcohol (Let’s face it! I will probably write about this topic a lot. It’s kind of in my wheelhouse.) can preserve memory, particularly of those moments before a person drinks. So it stands to reason that alcohol consumption would also have some sort of effect on dementia, no?

Researchers—or more appropriately, soul mates—have recently discovered that moderate drinking may stave off the signs of dementia in senior citizens, according to research published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease.

The study observed 1,300 adults from 1984-2013 living in a white-collar suburb of San Diego, CA, whose cognitive skills were measured every four years.

The good news: Men and women 85 and older who drank moderately around five to seven days a week (my kind of senior citizen) were less likely to show signs of dementia than non-drinkers.

The bad news: Moderate drinking is defined as only one drink per day for women and two drinks a day for men. (Does this gender gap know no bounds?)

"This study is unique because we considered men and women's cognitive health at late age and found that alcohol consumption is not only associated with reduced mortality, but with greater chances of remaining cognitively healthy into older age," said senior author and associate professor at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine, Linda McEvoy.

Conversely, heavy drinking (three alcoholic drinks a day for women and four for men) is linked to alcohol-related dementia. So this study, according to researchers, is not meant to signal an increase in drinking…blah, blah, blah.

Will this discovery impact your drinking (or non-drinking)? Anyone else surprised by the definition of moderate drinking here?

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08/12/2017 12:33 AM

I don't think it's the alcohol itself that makes the difference, but the effect on lifestyle that adds more diversity and environmental interaction that stimulates a person, and it is this, enhanced engagement, that makes the difference acting against a sedentary lifestyle ....Over consumption on the other hand, has the opposite effect, leading to withdrawal and biological consequences...

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08/12/2017 7:48 AM

There seem to be varying definitions of moderate drinking.

According to the "Dietary Guidelines for Americans 2015-2020,” U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and U.S. Department of Agriculture, moderate drinking is up to 1 drink per day for women and up to 2 drinks per day for men.

Moderate drinking is defined as up to four alcoholic drinks for men and three for women in any single day, according to The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse & Alcoholism (NIAAA), and a maximum of 14 drinks for men and 7 drinks for women per week.

The National Health Service (NHS), UK, states that men should not regularly consume more than 3-4 units of alcohol per day; women should not regularly consume more than 2-3 units per day (and here's a unit calculator).

Now I must go chill my units for later....

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08/12/2017 11:34 AM

One drink per day for women. Like this?

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08/12/2017 1:25 PM

I actually have a vessel (that wouldn't qualify as a glass, would it?) like that, but, as a former denizen of New Orleans, I tend to fill it with beads at the appropriate time of year.

O wait. Yes, in NOLA, that's a glass.

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08/14/2017 8:10 AM

Is this vessel perhaps a hurricane glass? I remember experiencing various hurricanes in NOLA, and I don't mean major tropical storms.

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08/14/2017 8:32 AM

Ah, yes, the hurricanes at Pat O'Brien's. They can be dangerous things -- after a while you try to brush something off your shoulder, and you realize it's the floor.

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08/14/2017 12:46 PM

I remember experiencing a Hurricane in NOLA during my college years before I discovered the wisdom of moderation. My head suffered severe storm damage during next day.

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08/13/2017 12:30 PM

Apparently in the United kingdom a " unit " is a certain measure of alcohol and every where else it's called a " standard drink " . From the text it appears that Englishman shouldn't drink as many units as their across the pond counterparts. Guidelines in the colonies advise user's to reach a particular level of intoxication then maintain that level by consuming a certain quantity of alcohol every hour thereafter.

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08/12/2017 1:26 PM

Correlation isn't always Causation. That A and B are correlated doesn't necessarily imply that A causes B. B might cause A, C might cause both A and B, or it might be a statistical fluke.

One in twenty statistical studies of purely random data will show significance to the 95 percentile (2 Sigma). Studies that don't show anything interesting don't get published. Just sayin'...

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08/13/2017 12:38 PM

There was something else that alcohol helped me with, if only I could remember what it was?

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08/14/2017 4:35 AM

It's got nothing to do with your eyesight has it?

Those Beer Goggles are powerful things

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08/17/2017 4:07 PM

Especially if your glasses are the same ones that "Bubbles" wears on T.P.B.

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08/18/2017 3:17 AM

Exactly the same ones.

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08/14/2017 8:30 AM

Despite the alcohol lobby's insistence that alcohol use makes life enjoyable, and that those who choose not to ingest alcohol are some kind of "party poopers", the fact remains--people drink to get "high"...PERIOD...not unlike users of other psychoactive substances.

The alcohol lobby has the same interests as the tobacco lobby in maintaining (if not increasing) the number of users of their respective products.

Use of any substance in moderation usually produces no ill effects, however, alcoholism (actually alcohol addiction) is a still a big problem.

Past ads placed by the alcohol industry falsely lump marijuana with cocaine and heroin as far as toxicity and addiction is concerned, while insisting that their "product" is innocuous and harmless.

Alcoholism has ruined more families, relationships and societies than any illegal or prescription drug.

It is interesting to note that the alcohol lobby has come out vehemently against the legalization of marijuana, as its legalization would cut into alcohol profits.

Marijuana was just legalized in Nevada, but control of its distribution was given to the alcohol industry for two years. Guess what? Shortages of recreational marijuana are rampant in Nevada, as the alcohol industry sees it as a threat to their bottom line.

I have no desire to see alcohol outlawed, as Prohibition (the first American "drug war") was an utter failure.

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08/14/2017 5:08 PM

I reside here in Las Vegas. As for the legalization, the first day that RECREATIONAL MJ was available, there were lines out the door and 4-5 hour waits to purchase. (I just happen to live and work by SEVERAL dispensaries and grow houses within smelling distance of work)

Now that it has settled down a bit, the ratio is still 20 -1, Recreational use vs. Medical use.

As for alcohol, I have 2-3 beers a day and I can say that the only adverse effects I have are having to use the restroom a few more times a night!

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08/14/2017 6:02 PM

Maybe in your case of the 3 beers the use of a urine diversion toilet can help recover up to 80% of the nutrients that would be lost in normal water treatment facilities and would also equal a large gain in energy conservation,,,

That is according to this article: and an abstract

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08/15/2017 9:48 AM

There might just be something to this. Stress leads to high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease. Maybe a couple of drinks to relieve stress could be beneficial.

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08/16/2017 1:09 AM

My Granddad's doctor gave him a prescription of 2 shots of rum a night before bedtime as treatment for his high blood pressure. Until he got the prescription, he almost never drank, but afterwards he followed the prescription every night. Lived to be 98 and his mind was sharp as a tack until he had to be moved into a nursing home and they refused to continue the prescription (and banned the doctor). If he could have continued to live at home, Granddad would probably still be telling stories to us today.

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08/18/2017 7:29 AM

I read that a glass of red wine a day was good for you, so i believe that 7 or 8 would

be even better!

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08/21/2017 6:11 PM

I started drinking when I was 18 (legal in New York up till 1955). For the next 30-40 years, I drank heavily, as much as a fifth a day (not every day) along with beer and wine. I hung out with a bunch of guys who were also heavy drinkers (they are now all dead of various reasons). Now at 82 (going on 83), I have cut back to 2-3 scotch and waters a day. There are days when I don't drink at all and I don't feel a craving. I always wondered why I wasn't an alcoholic; I don't seem to exhibit any symptoms. I have also smoked cigars since I was 18 and today I smoke a fine cigar a day, along with the scotch and water. I feel fine; my blood pressure is normal; my appetite is voracious. When we speak of drinking and smoking, Winston Churchill's name always pops up, as he was noted for drinking a lot and smoking several cigars a day, yet he lived till 90. Unless an airplane falls on my house and kills me, I intend on reaching 90 and beyond. Can't stop now; I still have a lot of things left to do. I am having my 2nd scotch and water as I type this, after which it's off to the front porch to enjoy a genuine Cuban Cohiba (my wife will let me smoke inside the house, but because she smokes her cigarettes outdoors, I will do the same). I don't put much trust on the statistics of life longevity; those are for insurance companies. It's all a matter of a toss of the coin whether you live a long life or you don't. I hope all will share my good fortune. Just live your life the way you want and don't let others tell you what you are doing wrong.

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