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Las Mejores Universidades de la América Latina

Posted October 19, 2017 4:20 PM by amichelen

Este es mi primer blog en Ingeniería en Español a pesar que lo cree algunos meses atrás. Mi tiempo ha sido limitado para escribir el blog por razones de trabajo y otras cosas. A partir de ahora, sin embargo, prometo escribir con regularidad.

Quiero empezar con un tópico que podría parecer controversial, dado que, para algunos, envuelve orgullo nacional y muchas veces personal.

El tópico: Cuales son las mejores universidades the la America Latina?

Hay varias instituciones que crean rankings de las univerisdades del mundo. Las dos mas importantes, sin embargo, son ambas británicas: Times Higher Education (THE) y el QS World University Ranking. Estas son dos publicaciones de gran prestigio que son “escuchadas” por compañias y gobiernos alrededor del mundo. Cada una cataloga las universidades a nivel mundial y por región.

Asi los índices generados para 2017 por THE y QS indican que hay muy pocos países en la America Latina con universidades que puedan “competir” a nivel mundial. El ranking the THE para 2017 incluye 81 universidades latinoamericans, pero solo 8 paises estan incluidos.

Considerando solameant el ranking de THE, en el grupo de las 50 primeras posiciones estan 18 de Brasil, 15 de Chile, 5 de Colombia y 8 de Mejico, entre otras. Entre las primeras 10 posiciones hay 5 Brasileñas, 2 de Chile, 2 de Méjico y 1 de Colombia.

Estas son las 10 primeras:

1. Universidad Estatal de Campiñas (Brasil)

2. Universidad de Sao Paulo (Brasil)

3. Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile (Chile)

4. Universidad de Chile (Chile)

5. Universidad de los Andes (Colombia)

6. Instituto Tecnológico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey (México)

7. Universidad Federal de Sao Paulo (Brasil)

8. Universidad Federal de Río de Janeiro (Brasil)

9. Pontificia Universidad Católica de Río de Janeiro (Brasil)

10. Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Ahora me pregunto, ¿qué pasa con los otros países latinoamericanos? Entre Latino America y el Caribe hay 33 paises; ¿porqué solamente hay 8 en el ranking mundial?

¿Qué les parece? Podriamos enumerar mil justificaciones de porqué la America Latina no ha podido llevar centros superiores de estudio al nivel de otras regiones.

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10/19/2017 5:05 PM

Thought this was an English site????

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10/19/2017 6:14 PM

LMTTFY!

The Best Universities in Latin America

This is my first blog in Engineering in Spanish although I believe it a few months ago. My time has been limited to write the blog for reasons of work and other things. From now on, however, I promise to write regularly.

I want to start with a topic that might seem controversial, given that, for some, it involves national and often personal pride.

The topic: What are the best universities in Latin America?

There are several institutions that create rankings of the universities of the world. The two most important, however, are both British: Times Higher Education (THE) and the QS World University Ranking. These are two publications of great prestige that are "listened to" by companies and governments around the world. Each catalogs the universities worldwide and by region.

Thus, the indexes generated for 2017 by THE and QS indicate that there are very few countries in Latin America with universities that can "compete" worldwide. The THE ranking for 2017 includes 81 Latin American universities, but only 8 countries are included.

Considering ONLY the ranking of THE, in the group of the top 50 positions are 18 from Brazil, 15 from Chile, 5 from Colombia and 8 from Mexico, among others. Among the top 10 positions there are 5 Brazilians, 2 from Chile, 2 from Mexico and 1 from Colombia.

These are the first 10:

1. State University of Campinas (Brazil)

2. University of Sao Paulo (Brazil)

3. Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile (Chile)

4. University of Chile (Chile)

5. Universidad de los Andes (Colombia)

6. Monterrey Institute of Technology and Higher Education (Mexico)

7. Federal University of Sao Paulo (Brazil)

8. Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)

9. Pontificia Universidad Católica de Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)

10. National Autonomous University of Mexico

Now I ask myself, what about the other Latin American countries? Between Latin America and the Caribbean there are 33 countries; Why are there only 8 in the world ranking? What do you think? We could list a thousand reasons why Latin America has not been able to bring higher education institutions to the level of other regions.

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10/21/2017 12:04 AM

While I think that each country and its language is unique and special, in engineering for the sake of clarity and comprehension there MUST be a common language.

that language is English!

I have worked all over the Middle East, Africa and parts of Russia and English is the only way we can communicate.

While you might be trying to whip up some enthusium for a forum in Spanish, I know that English will be prefered.

CR4 has members from all over the world, and they all use English, some better than others.

I fail to see your point in posting on this site in Spanish as I note no replies in Spanish.

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10/21/2017 4:27 PM

Dear Brick,

I am happy that English is the language of engineering. I do not agree, however, that we MUST have only ONE language.

I may add - with a little humor. I hope you are not offended - that English is "the" language of engineering (and many other human activities) only because of the many years the British Empire "roamed" the world.

If in 1588 the Spanish Armada would have defeated Lord Charles Howard and Sir Francis Drake, maybe today the language of engineering would be Spanish.

I hope you take the above paragraph as simple amusement. Really I love (even with Brexit...) your country very much (I am assuming you are from the great UK.)

It is true that CR4 members write in English and they are from all over the world, but there are millions who would like to participate in the ongoing discussions, but they can't because they don't speak English. AMong them there hundred of thousands who speak only Spanish.

Wouldn't you like to welcome them here? Or you prefer to wait until they learn English?

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10/20/2017 5:36 AM

It is in English because it is supposed to be accessible to everyone in the world, and speaking a different language is unfair (for limiting the access to a minority) and inappropiate (it promotes doing things like this).

As a spanish speaking person, I feel truly disappointed. When you start travelling arround the world is when you realize how important is having a common language!

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10/20/2017 8:58 AM

I apologize! This is the first entry in a new blog I am creating called "Ingenieria en Espanol) for Spanish-speaking users and for those who do not speak English but want to participate in CR4.

By mistake, however, I posted this content into my English language blog (Abe's blog)

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10/20/2017 10:30 AM

I don't mind it being is Spanish. In the header of your blog you tell us "This is an eclectic blog. Not only will I talk about technologies, engineering, nanotechnology, but also about education, music, art, and other human endeavors. After all, humans are not only engineers or doctors."

This entry seems to fit well with your mission statement.

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10/20/2017 10:56 AM

Yes, thanks! My blog includes many topics, and certainly a topic in Spanish is good.

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10/20/2017 11:49 AM

I was not complaining, I have just not seen any blogs in anything but English and thought I read in the FAQ's or rules somewhere that this is an English forum. I imagine it could get quite confusing if everyone posted in their native language.

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10/20/2017 12:55 PM

There is an announcement on the home page about this.

We are always up for testing new ideas. If there is interest in Spanish blogs we may consider a separate user group and section to support it, just like the Break Room.

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10/20/2017 10:59 AM

Ivaniov,

If you are a Spanish speaker, why are you disappointed? Don't you love the language of Cervantes with the same intensity as the language of Shakespeare?

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10/21/2017 12:14 AM

Yo pensé lo mismo! GA (Gran Apreciación)

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10/21/2017 7:01 AM

I am disappointed because of the barrier that different languages create between people.

And I believe the lack of a common language creates problems such as:

  • Tourist scam (when you travel and you are required to pay an unfair amount of money, you cannot complain in anything but the local language)
  • People manipulation (having people who only speak one language allows politicians to create their own reality, making a group of people think differently from others and leading to conflicts, as happens with Catalonia)
  • It makes trading more difficult (slowing economic growth)
  • It makes going abroad more difficult (slowing economic growth even more, as shown at Why does JAPAN need IMMIGRANTS?)

I did love the books of Cervantes when I read it, but I also feel that it is unfair that anyone who does not have an advanced level of Spanish cannot enjoy it as much as I did.

A similar reasoning will apply to great literature in other languages.

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10/21/2017 10:25 AM

I presume, from your indicated location in Spain and your comments on Cervantes, that Spanish is your first language, but presuming can often lead to mistakes...

You obviously have an excellent command of English as well, but there are millions of Spanish-speaking people who have not had the opportunity or conditions required to learn English well. I find it commendable that the administrators of CR4 are at least "testing the waters" to accommodate those millions.

I read and enjoyed "Don Quixote" in English, but was disappointed that I was unable to find a copy in Spanish during the few days I was in Spain a few years ago...

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10/21/2017 3:53 PM

Dkwarner,

I totally agree with you!

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10/21/2017 3:34 PM

Ivanov,

Your itemized justifications are simply useless. You should just say "I do not want to speak Spanish in this forum" and this would be understood as a real reason.

But, wanting to have ONLY one language for all the people of the world, because - in your thoughts - it would be easier to travel? or because it would dispel nationalistic ideas like in Catalonia? or because you would avoid "tourist scams? Come on...

But, again, why this sole language should be English? Why not Esperanto?

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10/21/2017 7:32 PM

I am not who to tell you in what language to speak in this forum, so demanding such a thing does not make any sense to me. All I can do is either feel good or bad about whatever is said here.

Besides, this thread is going very deep out of topic.

Anyway, my preference for English, apart from being taught worldwide, is caused by an additional reason: the ASCII standard (where A stands for American).

English is my 3rd language, so I know a bit about different languages. However, English is the only language (to my knowledge) that can be written correctly without the need of UNICODE.

As an engineer, I feel like UNICODE just makes things slower than ASCII, due to the amount of information being processed. It reminds me of internet providers, who have to sell you things you do not need (Netflix, HBO, football, telephone) if you want to get just an internet connection at home.

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10/21/2017 8:13 PM

Interesting, and I think, valid point.

English is already a conglomerate of many other languages. That may help some to adapt to it a bit more easily.

One interesting point: Operating manuals are commonly published in several languages in a single document. Out of necessity, over the years I have had to decipher portions of manuals in at least seven languages. While reading the operating manuals for many devices (Yes - I really do read them!), I have noticed that the English versions nearly always take up less space than any of the other languages.

And of course, I understand that airline pilots and air traffic controllers are required to speak English worldwide.

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10/21/2017 10:45 AM

Desgraciadamente, sospecho que soy típico entre Americanos de saber casi nada acerca de universidades en América Latina.

He leido varios artículos que mencionaron astrónomos Chilenos quienes trabajan en los telescopios del Atacama, pero no me acuerdo de cual(es) universidad(es) venian...

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íHablas bien el Español!

En la América Hispana hay buenas universidades, pero solamente en muy pocos de los 33 países que tenemos. Probablemente sólo Brasil, Chile, Colombia, Méjico y Argentina son los que tienen sistemas educativos buenos.

Esta es la intención de empezar este “blog” hablando de la educación en la América Latina. Creo que todavía tenemos un camino largo que recorrer.

En el desierto de Atacama en Chile (mi país de origen) hay muchos centros astronómicos creados por universidades e instituciones de todas partes del mundo: Oxford, Harvard, CalTech, MIT, etc., pero hay una gran participación de las universidades chilenas. En particular las dos mejores: la Universidad Pontificia Católica y la Universidad de Chile.

Si te interesa aquí hay un artículo que esta semana sobe el choque de dos Estrellas de Neutrones (Neutron Stars), en donde las extraordinarias fotografías fueron tomas pot centros astronómicos del Atacama.

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¡Gracias!

Interesantísimo el artículo. ¿Realmente existen verdaderas fotografías del evento, o solamente las reconstucciones basados en los datos adquiridos por todos los instrumentos?

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10/23/2017 7:30 AM

Estas so fotos tomadas del evento que ocurrio 130 millions de años

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¿Cuales fotos? ¿Intentó incluir un link?

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10/30/2017 1:25 PM

I think this country (USA) has bent backwards long enough to accommodate languages from around the world. Other countries do not do the same and direct all their business in their own native language. This is an English speaking country , but it seems those from other countries, mostly from Hispanic countries would try to make the Spanish language an "official" language here. Some states have already done that; witness Florida and California where only Spanish speaking people can get a job in a Spanish speaking community. This was the case in Florida where a teacher was fired because she didn't speak Spanish. My wife is from Chile and she is bi-lingual, but I will not speak Spanish, not because I can't, but because I won't. There is nothing I can express in Spanish that I can't in English. I say, if you don't want to adopt the language of your host country, then go home.

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10/31/2017 8:34 AM

Dear Ronseto,

This is not about wanting to force Spanish into the United State Society. I do think that English should be the only language of the USA and French of France. This blog is not about diminishing a language to enhance another.

Definitely, you are confused.

It happens, however, that CR4 is an international site; we do have engineers and technical (and not technical) people who would like to join our extraordinary group but do not speak English. In Latin America, I know, there are hundreds of thousands who would like to join us but they won't because of the language barrier. These people could also make a contribution to CR4 by showing to the world that CR4 is and an international and multilingual site.

This Spanish entry in this blog is only a test to see if I will create a Spanish blog to satisfy these friends. You do not have to belong to it. Please, if the Spanish blog is created, do not go close to it, so you can satisfy your short-sighted vision of the world.

Ronseto, don't be so selfish; let them enjoy our group!

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