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On Star Trek, the transporter is a two hundred year old scam involving a phaser and a replicator. Be afraid - very afraid!!!

What! How dare you!

I believe it's completely possible, as soon as we finalise the design of the Heisenberg compensator!

So there you have it... In essence, each time you transport, you die. Then, they make a copy of you someplace else.

I signed on this ship to practice medicine, not to have my atoms scattered back and forth across space by this gadget.
- L. McCoy

"A Star Trek matter transporter is presumed to operate by reading the precise quantum state of every particle making up the person to be transported, breaking down that person from their component matter into energy, "beaming" that energy to the desired location,"

As a friend noted, you would need a wire the diameter of the Earth to handle all the current from the converted matter of a person person into energy.

I will admit that more often than not I have wished I could teleport someone else, but I would rather not disclose that destination.

Actually, I would prefer if everyone else could teleport directly to work. That would leave the roads empty for me so I could enjoy driving my car.

What! You mean broadband aint enough? Igor! Get the BIG wire!

What would be the result if the being that you were transportating had a ball of energy the size of Titan inside them to work with???

Will the energy also be mapped and transported of will it cease to esist?

Does the Energy "Locus Principal" apply here. I have seen so little translated work that I am not sure???

I have been through this, I was in a dentist chair, he out me under and presto! Thirty minutes later I was home on the couch coming to, does this count? Kind of freaked me out.

Billions of people vanishing and appearing ,Ghostly Earth?

Vanishing in thin air!

Some day it may be possible to teleport lifeless objects to places , but living thing how do you transport life , you have to kill somebody and again recreat life , still if possible what will personell think ,see, hear if moleculised or quantomised between teleporting time , will he be in hibernation , bye the time humans achive such "supernatural" technology , they won`t need it

You guys just don't get it. When the mothership finally returns you'll all see!

By the way, we install pacemaker and defibulators into our young so they can be revived after transport.

One for each heart.

All beings created just not quite equal some questions are in order:

The article seems to have been written in jest, how did you take it?

The teleportation between two atoms?

Teleportation between two objects, light and matter again Uh Sure?

The teleportation of actual people, oh yes I mean beings of un - equal I mean perhaps we have just a little bit different stuff that makes us what we are?

So nothing has happened yet, I expected as much?

Quantum physics aside the serial data thing has already been hammered out.

The part about getting the whole bundle (Your mind, body spirit, energy, and all of those friendly organisms that make us what we are) to the other end without a receiver is a stumper?

A soiling problem, I quote "Never argue with a person who cannot take a joke" The common observer cannot tell the difference?

The rest is all trivial and Geeze already, you never saw this thing as a 'Joke Question?

Wound up there a bit tight aren't you?

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The tests and the technology behind them is real and scientifically proven (they are still struggling with the quantum physics and mechanics, but that is understandable since it is such a new scientific field). The original post was just merely a link to the latest article on current developments.

Why is it people will make fun of real and scientifically proven developments by well known and respected scientists but will blindly praise the backyard tinkerer who has developed a magnet-powered free energy generator? Is it the fact that they can sort of understand magnets and water electrolysis, but struggle with the basics of quantum physics or particle theory in general?

I suggest you actually read the article again (and the articles on the web), in fact re-read my comments also, as you seem to fail to grasp the fact that teleporting people is not possible by all current scientific understanding (including quantum), as I have already said. It does have other uses which they are in the process of developing (as I have mentioned). If you cannot see the potential use of a serial data link that works using a quantum (instantaneous data transfer) state then you......probably won't understand what I have just written above.

The article seems to have been written in jest, how did you take it?

Why do you think I wrote such a long post? To try and clear up some things (reporters can have a tendency to gloss over the facts in favor of a good story, especially if they dont understand the science and potential benefits behind it).

Wound up there a bit tight aren't you?

Yes, I work too hard, and in my free time I try and advise and help others (such as those on CR4). Am I getting thru to you?

Hey I will not argue, a point in the making:

As for clearing up things with a long expose or holding the feet to the fire of truth, come on. CR4 looks like a hobby at best for the most astute of this high brow group.

If you are doing the world some good and getting points gotta use Peace Core or something similar. The Old crowd here gets some respect, the rest of us are in the having fun group.

From what I see folks in this CR4 forum are having fun and making fun; with little tangible results.

I have analyzed my own response pattern and I am treating this as a trivial pursuit.

So go forth and WIN you have "Won over, surmounted my humble efforts, and defeated my intellectual challenge"

and all of that stuff.

As for clearing up things with a long expose or holding the feet to the fire of truth, come on. CR4 looks like a hobby at best for the most astute of this high brow group.

Well I like a good joke, but I take things fairly professionally here (as I do at work). Remember, many of the questions posted here on CR4 are from people with a genuine interest in learning and getting answers to sometimes extreme questions or problems answered (or at the very least pointed in the right direction). This is the best engineering discussion forum on the web I have found, and one I am more than willing to stay on and provide my experience (call it a hobby if you will).

If you are doing the world some good and getting points gotta use Peace Core or something similar.

No, I just save all the newspaper articles which feature and discuss my projects (such as last years National Business Review on the 10 most exciting engineering projects in New Zealand). Besides I don't do engineering for the money, more like being paid to do something one loves.

From what I see folks in this CR4 forum are having fun and making fun; with little tangible results.

True, but I would also argue that many of us get a great deal out of it, I for one do. The fields of Engineering and Science now days are constantly changing and evolving and CR4 also does a nice job of bringing some of the latest developments to peoples attention. That, and it feels good to help out someone with a genuine need or interest in science or engineering.

So go forth and WIN you have "Won over, surmounted my humble efforts, and defeated my intellectual challenge"

If only the backyard free energy tinkerers were as easy to convince as you.

I have one for you that's even harder to prove and probably have some vitriolic people digging trenches on both sides of the line.

What about that goof who said that Humans have different energy levels? Now is that measurable and can things be accomplished with that energy?

The energy machine that just keeps on going and this guy who made into Geezer classification is getting his while he still can.

So Human energy has been written about over the last 5,000 years or so.

Can we use it, work with it, measure it?

Should I open a discussion on the subject?

I'm not familiar with the "Energy machine" free energy generator, is it something that harnesses the heat output of a person, or is is it one of Joseph Newman's fantrabulistic inventrifications?

No amount of large bright red and blue text is going to convince real scientists and engineers that this is anything other than a blatant scam Joseph. Quoting God will not help you either.

Yeh wondered about that:

But, But: There is about 4 - 5 thousand years of Asian history behind us stating that the Human body is capable of energy output for workable functions:

Is that worth investigating? Do you think that it's all Bunk?

But, But: There is about 4 - 5 thousand years of Asian history behind us stating that the Human body is capable of energy output for workable functions:

You mean like using the body to convert food stuffs into free energy that can be harnessed to produce work (like digging a ditch, or powering an exercise bike with a generator attached to produce "free" electricity).....Ohhhh, its not patented yet.

Not all of it is bunk, but the effects and benefits are generally SERIOUSLY overstated.

How about acquiring an identifiable moniker Guest?

You gotta be kidding, I have made my self enough difficulty in life, I thank you very much. I will stay anonymous for now.

So I am asking The Kung Foo guys have been doing that energy thing almost forever. I know a guy who has an Uncle from Viet Nam who can turn an Iron rod red hot with his internal energy. Giving this story a "Long Shot" but having some small experience with something like that, and this being the forum where the big brains congregate and I have seen others who ask similar questions.

So is it Bunk or not?

Can the energy flowing from a Human source, felt and verified by two witnesses as a distinct tactile sensation be measured, harnessed, or used in a like manner as any other energy source?

Can you give a reasonable verifiable source for the answer as to the "Why or Why Not"? a Human energy source is either "Real or Imagined"?

Why is the flowing sensation "Off the Scale" at times, I mean a heap big current?

As i have said before, not all of it is bunk, but the effects and benefits are generally SERIOUSLY overstated.

Many of my friends are (or were at one time before they started to let themselves go) martial arts experts, so I have had a little first hand experience (that and my martial arts training).

As for the Uncle from Viet Nam who can turn an Iron rod red hot, well I think that perhaps that is a bit of an exaggeration don't you. Small things are possible thou, but the really big things have never been scientifically proven. Like I say to the free energy crowd, Extraordinary claims call for extraordinary evidence. No a video doesn't count, here I found a video of a car transforming into a giant dancing robot AND its verifiable as it's a commercial on TV!

Can the energy flowing from a Human source, felt and verified by two witnesses as a distinct tactile sensation be measured, harnessed, or used in a like manner as any other energy source?

I believe so, but its small! (Human electrical nervous system, body heat transfer, etc).

Why is the flowing sensation "Off the Scale" at times, I mean a heap big current?

I would have to know the source of the information to see weather it is verifiable, but my gut says its either an exaggeration or a scam.

It's called ancient Chinese doctor says, "I got nothing. Guess it's time to go for the Hail-Mary!"