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Restoring a 1960 McDonough Buckboard

Posted April 28, 2008 12:01 AM by dstrohl

It's funny to think that my push mower has more than double the horsepower of Shorty's Briggs & Stratton 2hp-powered 1960 McDonough Buckboard, but really, how much horsepower do you need? Designed as a kit to be built at home, such vehicles could be bought through various mail-order catalogs or small ads in do-it-yourself magazines such as Popular Mechanics or Popular Science. Does anybody else envision a buckboard spec racing class?

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04/29/2008 8:48 AM

I have never seen a "buckboard" just like the one in your photo. It looks like the fore-runner to the modern go-cart. When we were kids we built small motor-less push type carts much like tho one in your photo. The main requirement was a big hill to run the things down. I was home visiting my parents a few years back and all the local people were into building and racing lawn mowers. I got a chance to go to one of the races and it was very fun. they had a small oval dirt track and had tricked out those lawn mowers to really move. I could see myself building and racing one of those pretty easily.

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04/29/2008 8:58 AM

Good to hear from you, pipewelder. You might be interested in this story about the 1960 McDonough Buckboard, too.

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04/29/2008 9:45 AM

Good informative site thanks Moose for sharing it. Now I know a little about these guys. I was raised in south Alabama in a family that had little or no money for such things so this is probably why I have never saw one. Around my house if you wanted something you had to figure out how to build it cheap or do without. We had a very steep hill on the dirt road I grew up on that we called "thrill hill" it was fun to coast down that baby on one of our carts but probably not real safe.

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04/29/2008 11:39 AM

Oh, yeah - I've seen that too - some of those "lawn mowers" could shave a football field in a couple of minutes if the blades would only turn fast enuff! I've seen one built on an old Harley-Davidson front end, painted up in John Deere green...QUITE the trick trike!

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05/15/2008 8:04 PM

Hi, this is Shorty. That's my go kart. Most of the stuff on the Micro car web site is write. But some isn't. One thing is that they didn't have headlights. I have a copy of the original build sheet and on the cover it has a picture of the Buckboard with headlights. Also that one doe's not have fenders. I found my fenders in another part of the garage, 1 of them is crumpled up pretty bad, the others are in better shape but not great. I have a friend that doe's auto body work repairing them for me.

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05/15/2008 9:22 PM

Hi, Shorty again. I just read the Micro car spec. sheet again.

The steering is gear driven, not cable.

The gearbox is forward neutral, and reverse.

Horsepower was what you put on it, it was sold as a kit.

I've emailed them 5 or 6 times just to talk with no response?

Here's another link to my 1960 McDonough Buckboard. - Later, Shorty

http://p068.ezboard.com/f1960mcdonoughbuckboardfrm1.showMessage?topicID=1.topic

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05/15/2008 9:52 PM

Forgot something else! They didn't come with "white wall tires", looking at the pictures in the build kit. - Shorty

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05/16/2008 7:57 AM

Thanks for joining the discussion, Shorty. And welcome to CR4! I appreciate the time you've taken to set the story straight. We'd love to have you join us here, and encourage you to register with CR4.

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10/27/2009 1:18 PM

The "McDonough Buckboard" was not actually sold as a kit. It was manufactured and built by the McDonough Power Equipment Company in McDonough, GA., in the late 50's and early 60's. McDonough Power would later become "Snapper" manufacturing, home of the world famous Snapper Lawn Mowers.

In the late 50's when McDonough Power was just getting started, they had virtually no sales in the late fall & winter, so their lead Engineer, Mr. Harold Jackson, designed & built the first Buckboard, using the engine and drive train, including the two handles for forward & reverse, from their "Snapping Turtle" self propelled lawn mower. They sold for $275.00. Later, he also designed and the company built a 1/2 scale "Tin Lizzie", using the same front end assembly, drive train, and wheels. Snapper sold the plans to Sharp Mini Car in Kansas, who still sells the Tin Lizzie. Lots of us here in McDonough still own one or both.

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11/10/2010 2:39 PM

I'm trying to restore one of the Tin Lizzie's. I need new wheels and fenders if they can be found. Do you know of anyone in McDonough that would sell parts?

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02/26/2012 7:22 PM

I found a source for Tin Lizzie parts. I think it may be the only place left to sell the parts. I have looked high and low and found them today. I have a parts list and exploded diagram of the Tin Lizzie. Email me if you are interested still. They even sell NEW fenders! Hey, send me a picture of your car. I'd love to see it.

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11/10/2010 2:49 PM

I'm trying to restore a Tin Lizzie and need help locating wheels and fenders. Any suggestions or know of anyone selling parts. Want to get this done before the holidays to surprise my Dad and kids.

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11/10/2010 9:06 PM

I restored my Buckboard, made new wooden spokes, powder coated the wheels red.

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11/28/2010 5:42 PM

Go to www.sharpminicar.com

Sharp Mini Cars bought the plans & dies from McDonough Power Equipment. They still sell all body parts and wheels (expensive!), even small trim items. They changed the dricetrain, though, so parts for the original Snapper trans aren't available new. Search through old lawn mower dealers for them. You can use the clutch disk off of a Snapper Rider (Comet) to replave the reverse drive disc.

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01/29/2010 9:27 AM

Hi shorty

you got me going om my Restoring a 1960 McDonoughbuckboard here in PA

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06/27/2011 4:25 PM

I also have a buckboard I am trying to restore. I have fenders on mine and I need two replacements. I have also replaced the wooden wheels with plastic spoke wheels.

I would like to find a source for the wooden wheels and fenders. I also need a new engine.

Where did you find parts.

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07/04/2012 3:00 AM

was there something wrong with your wood spokes?

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08/17/2011 8:56 PM

I am going to build a McDonough Buckboard from scratch. It appears that the Sharp Mini Car website has been taken down and is no longer active. And leaving phone call messages to the answering system at the Sharp phone number appears to be a fruitless effort. Email to their AOL address goes unanswered.

I have a couple of questions:

~ Is there a source to buy those red spoked wheels with pneumatic tires? I can't seem to find one. People who have restored these cars must have obtained those tires somewhere. Maybe someone would be willing to post and share that information.

~ Is there a source to obtain plans for the car? (i.e. drawing with some dimensions?) A google search for plans comes up pretty much dry. No one has any plans listed online anywhere, or at least I can't locate a source. Are the plans protected under some sort of patent or copyright constraints? I wouldn't think so.

~ Would someone who has this car be willing to post some detailed photographs of the undercarriage and steering mechanism?

~ Also, some major dimensions would save time during the re-engineering effort.

Comments appreciated. If I achieve success in locating plans, parts, more photos, or a source for the wheels I will post my findings. This is such a great little mini car.

Ed (aka Willie)

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02/26/2012 7:18 PM

I found a source for McDonough Tin Lizzie parts and I think the spoke wheels are the same. Email me if still interested. Send me a picture of your buckboard progress from time to time. I'd love to build one also!

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05/10/2012 12:22 AM

dkmerth where is it you can find after market stuff for the buckboard?

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07/04/2012 3:14 AM

hi folks im hawk and i to have one of these awsome cars go figure anyhow i bought it from my grandfathers estate and it was in rough shape with a good twenty coats of paint real pain in the butt so i took it all apart then i moved and while i still have all the pieces and everything has been repainted but i dont remember how the rear axle was assembled if one of you could share a photo i would be most thankful and as for the fenders i had decided just to leave them of seeing as i couldent find new and mine were pretty well shot but if anyone can tell me where to get new ones im all ears

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07/05/2012 11:40 AM

I can help, I know the Buckboard, my wooden spokes broke at the hub during at very fast hard left turn. I had a woodshop make me all new hickory spokes

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07/05/2012 1:22 PM

Hey what is you electric set up there that seems really neat and how fast can you go for how long

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07/05/2012 3:29 PM

15 mph 2-3 hour of pollution free fun. My weight and two grandchildren 240lbs. No proplem with hills. Just good clean fun !!!! Bill in PA

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07/05/2012 11:43 AM

I can help, I know these Buckboards well.

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07/09/2012 7:33 PM

Hi Everyone. I just found this thread while serching parts for the Mc donugh Tin Lizzy Car i just bought. I'm also looking for any sorce for parts. especily Wheels with the wooden spokes as one of mine is missing.. here is a couple of pictures thanks in advance. for any leads. I tried the sharp website but it's closed..not sure Why..

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07/15/2012 1:09 PM

are you missing the whole wheel or does the spokes need replacing? I also see it kinda looks like you have some original tires??

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07/15/2012 1:23 PM

two of the wheels are the original one's with the wood spokes, the other two are the newer plastic one's. one of those is broken. so i would like to find two more of the wood spoke wheels.

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07/15/2012 1:55 PM

I have seen at times them on ebay but very pricey but i was talking about the tires its self also, One my newest one it had 3 of the original tires on it also an it say in the tire McDonough Power Equipment on the tire its self

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07/15/2012 2:03 PM

These tires all say Crue Cut..

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07/15/2012 11:45 PM

OK who all has a buckboard or McDonough Power equipment car that would be interested in a yahoo group or facebook group? something that way we can help each other on parts an ex. Show our stuff an share knowledge?

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07/15/2012 11:55 PM

Count me in!..

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07/16/2012 12:23 AM

group/modeltgocart an thats at yahoo

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OK I'm in..

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group lets do it

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