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Stopping Spam Simply

Posted July 04, 2008 8:16 AM

There are many different ways to stop spam, but the simplest is to charge a few cents for each e-mail. This stops the "stupid spam" that typically garners one response out of a million, but doesn't impose an undue financial burden on legitimate e-mails. Is charging for e-mail the best way to stop spam, or is there a better method? If charging is best, who should get the money?

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/04/2008 9:26 AM

Is charging for e-mail the best way to stop spam, or is there a better method? If charging is best, who should get the money?

Anyone but Bill Gates or the government. maybe the recipient of the E-mail?

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/04/2008 11:58 AM

A similar, but more effective, method would be a slight electrical charge to the testicles - equal in volts to, let's say, the number of emails you send daily.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/05/2008 2:45 PM

I agree--pay me 0.025 cents for each spam, payable to a designated charity!

My favorite?

the Rodney King Foundation: "Why can't we all just get along?"

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/06/2008 12:08 AM

" but the simplest is to charge a few cents for each e-mail."

Very bad idea. Unlike the hole in the dike there is no restraint to prevent the charging for everything you do on the internet.

Anyone to ignorant, lazy, or careless to block emails deserves to get mine too.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/06/2008 7:43 PM

GA

You don't want to open that can of worms.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/06/2008 3:08 PM

Is charging for e-mail the best way to stop spam, or is there a better method?

I take about 50 spams received, package and resend back to spammers at random. Same as do for junk snail mail.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/08/2008 8:10 AM

At 650 spams per week, it's a different proposition.....

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/10/2008 1:41 AM

There is a very simple way to stop that nasty in its tracks:

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/11/2008 10:51 AM

Pay per email is a HORRIBLE idea... Unless of course I'm the one providing the service and getting the revenue.

Look into a piece of software called Spam Bully. Here is the link: http://www.spambully.com/

and NO - I am not affiliated with the company - just a happy customer. This software solved my spam problem. Granted that the spam still travels over the network and "takes up bandwidth" - here is an idea - Why couldn't this sort of software filter be implement on the server side rather than the client side? Then the spam couldn't "take up bandwidth" because it would NEVER BE SENT... The reason this won't be done is because more money can be made writting and selling client side software - more customers to sell it to.

Alright someone grab my idea and run with it - you have my permission. I have too many of my own I am already working on.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/12/2008 3:12 AM

I agree with You 100%! I am programer and could make perfect spam blocker, but my IP dont let me access to server that is receiving my mail... Reason is of course that some IP ARE generating spam themselves, or some webmasters are raking money from spamers, so they wont cut their supply of easy money....... Next reason is that IP charge per MBy of data transfer, that way they charge us for spam we receive, and that is good pile of money if they have hundreds of thousands users, if not milions!

Yes, best way to stop SPAM and child porngraphy is to preclude them to leave server of spammer!

This idea of paying for each email sent is perhaps long range goal of IPs, so they first draw us crazy with spam and then charge US for sending emails, jus like we are not ALLREADY paying for it, AND for receiving UNWANTED email!

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/12/2008 5:12 AM

Hello Henrik14

With MailwasherPro, you just access the POP3 server at your ISP.

MailwasherPro is a "normal" email receiving Engine, and you can read the Email, or the first 800 lines or so (setting by you, the user).

You can delete what you want, bounce if you want, or receive what you want.

"Selective Mail Download", in Pegasus Email Utility, allows yopu to see the origin of the Email, any routing it has had, then you can selectively delete, or Download and Delete, or Download and leave on the POP3 Server.

MailwasherPro is compatible with both Gmail and Hotmail addresses as well, and has many facilities too numerous to mention, in this short Post here.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/12/2008 9:40 AM

Thank You for information, but I looked at requirements and it is server side program, so I cannot use it because my IP does not alow me to access mail on server.....

Nevertheless, even if I would be able to write such program by myself, since it is opensource, I shall take look at its code, provided it is not written in some modish but badly patched language like C++ :-((

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/14/2008 3:32 PM

That makes sense to me, after all it works on my "Snail Mail", I only get about 50-60 pieces of that a week, at about 75 cents to a dollar (US) apiece between postage, printing, envelopes, & return envelopes, handling on the mailers end, plastic fake credit cards, etc. And I'm not including the charities and organizations that I do contribute to, just the absolutely unwanted & unasked for stuff.

Now, who wants to e-mail me back about this, at a buck a pop???

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/15/2008 3:34 AM

Hello gakelley

I offer the services of my Bank agent, based in Lagos, Nigeria.

He could arrange a suitable Bank Account, for all those deposits.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/16/2008 2:47 AM

Let people forward spam to a institute that can count the spam. If a certain amount of spam from one company is accumulated (lets say 1000 in a week) fine them for spamming. (not to much, warning like). Exponentially increase the fine when accumulated spams/week increase. If people don't bother to forward their spam, they don't care enough to count their spam as an annoyance.

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Re: Stopping Spam Simply

07/16/2008 5:40 AM

IS there such institute? I would be first to send all my spam to them, but would not this be kind of spamming, also?

If it would be my way, SPAM filters should preclude SPAM from being sent in first place, saving bandwidth and precious time wasted on erasing it from Inbox.

I had used SPAM filter that my IP provided, but this way I lost some clients whose email was deleted before reaching me, and I was negotiating financing my projects for over 10 months previously...... When their emails returned with note that it is not received because of illegal or offensive content, my investors got ofended and I lost investment in size of tens to hundred milions of US $.........

I have proposed similr idea like Yours, just users have to vote by sending what they considered to be SPAM, and if certain number (say 500) send same SPAM email, then source have to be found and perpertrator bared from using WEB thereafter....

But to find sender is not easy as they falsify data of mail origin, so one way to check outgoing mail and reduce SPAM is to check if return email address is valid one and not sending such email at all, then spammers targer can retaliate ba sending spam back to sender, which would fast make this person cease sending it, no?

Same shold be with mais with empty>>To:<< line, or those that are having >>Undisclosed recepicijents<< or something similar in that line, including same email address as sender's or any nonexistent email address.......

This days I routinely erase such emails and very little SPAM remain to be checked furher...... Still, it also takes time and I have less than I need for my work..........

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