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How I got rid of the horned animals in my stairway

Posted August 21, 2008 10:14 AM by frankd20
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One of the hassles of buying a house is dealing with the old or ugly design choices the previous owner made. One of these design choices I had been living with for a while was a marble design paneling in the front stairway and foyer.

The paneling had a somewhat spooky effect when you saw it in person; with out too much imagination, the patterns looked like various horned animals – so finally it had to go. The easy part of the job was ripping it off the walls; it had been glued on and the glue had let go of the paneling, causing it to bubble out – yet another reason to get rid of it.

After removing the paneling, I was left with a wall covered with black, tar-looking construction glue that was still well-adhered to the walls. Reading up on how to get rid of the glue confirmed my fears that it would not be easy.

I have an older house so much of the walls are made of plaster and lath, while some have been replaced with drywall. Of the information I collected, I was told scraping the walls and heating the glue was the best method of removal. I found that goop remover did seem to dissolve the black glue, but was smelly and more mess than it was worth. So scrape I did, and it took quite a bit of it off. I was still left with a wall with lots of black stuff on it, but at least now the wall was smoother. On the sheetrock walls, the scraping also took off some of the paper although that turned out ok in the end.

The next step was to skim coat a layer of spackling mud over the wall and remaining black junk to try and cover it. I ended up putting three coats of mud on the wall and sanding in-between each of them. Once the last coat had dried, I gave it a really good sanding and it was time to paint. At this point, aside from the large amount of white dust and black stuff all over the floor, things were starting to look good. The last step was to paint everything with a paint, which is meant to cover mildew stains and other discolorations.

So now I have white walls, and once I am done redoing my kitchen and possibly scuffing the wall as I carry stuff up and down the stairs, I will put the final coat of paint on. This was a bigger project than I wanted, but in the end it was worth it to get rid of the paneling.

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08/22/2008 9:01 AM

Nice job! When I moved into my house the previous owner had installed this crappy wood tone paneling with pictures of deer and turkey on it. I like wild life as good as the next guy but this was a little much for a whole living room. Before I was done I had re sheetrocked the entire lower floor. Talk about a fairly small job growing into a monster.

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08/22/2008 11:04 AM

Old or ugly design choices...well, there's no accounting for taste, is there? Good job well done - thanks for sharing!

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08/24/2008 10:09 PM

When I moved into this house there was one wall covered with cork. It smelled like it was smoldering all the time. After scraping it off and trying everything I could find, I finally paid a painter to put a skim coat of drywall mud over it a double coat of primer and finish paint solved the problem. Till a few years went by and the mud cracked and appeared to be held up by the new paint only.

Now I have a nice large entertainment center in front of it.

Looks good from here.

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08/24/2008 11:56 PM

You bought the blair witch house?

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08/25/2008 8:38 AM

No the Duty witch house. Similar, but located in a crapier neighborhood.

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09/01/2008 9:36 PM

Duty was the name of the previous owner. Sorry, you probably did not know that huh?

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09/01/2008 6:51 AM

Sine the black stuff was in an isolated area seems liquid nitrogen sprayed over small areas would have allowed someone wil a long handel scraper to knock it off in chunks onto a tarp for disposal.

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09/01/2008 9:47 PM

That sounds workable. I'll expect you just after your first snow. I will make reservations for you in the Hotel Nissan. If you are bringing any one with you, please let me know before hand so I can clean out the Hotel Berretta. Will you be bringing your own liquid nitrogen?

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09/01/2008 9:52 PM

Well I I will be busy planting a garden then maybe in the fall no that won't work got hay, corn and fish to harvest.

:( and I was so looking forward to it.

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09/02/2008 9:24 AM

More best-laid plans ganging a-gley, right before our very eyes! Horrid situation...

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09/02/2008 10:27 AM

How about you? I am reasonably sure that you ain't shoveling no snow.

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09/02/2008 11:35 AM

True - or at least I sure HOPE that stays true...however, I have no ready supply of LiN, or for that matter, even a long-handled scraper. Dang it, I was looking forward to it too...

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Re: How I got rid of the horned animals in my stairway

09/22/2008 9:51 AM

frankd20,

I don't want to be an alarmist...

However, the black adhesive that you encountered sounds like what is commonly referred to as cutback adhesive. It is asphalt based. Depending upon how long ago it was made, this type of adhesive was very often formulated with chrysotile asbestos as an ingredient.

While the actual percentage of asbestos in the formulation was typically fairly low, and the asbestos fibers were typically bound up in the asphalt matrix, anything comprised of >1% asbestos is "regulated asbestos-containing material" by definition.

I do not know how long ago you undertook this work, and how much sanding of the black adhesive you needed to do, but it might be advisable to have the carpeting in your front stairway and foyer steam cleaned, or, alternatively, (and possibly preferably), fine cleaned with a high efficiency (HEPA) filter equipped vacuum cleaner. A norrmal household vacuum, or a shop vac SHOULD NOT be used, as the asbestos fibers are far too small to be captured by the filter bags in such equipment - the fibers would be sucked up, and blown right out of the exhaust port of the vacuum, into the ambient air inside your home. Exactly where you don't want asbestos fibers to be...

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