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A Professional Network For Engineers

Posted October 11, 2008 5:01 PM by Chris Leonard

If you even mildly follow the business of "Internet Business", then I'm sure you're aware that the hottest trend is the rise of social networking sites like Facebook, MySpace, Gather and even professional connection sites like LinkedIn. For the uninitiated, social and professional networks put the premium on interpersonal relationships – finding actual friends or professional contacts, acknowledging them as such, and fostering direct involvement at the personal level. Networking isn't new – the key sites have all been around for years, but it has become the place where astute advertisers are putting their money. And every time you turn around someone else is touting their new network – be it the New York Times (TimesPeople) or the fictional Dunder Mifflin Infinity site from TV's "The Office."

The latest trend in networking is the growth of the professional vertical networks (or ProNets) that are focused on a specific job type or industry. For example, Research Scientists have Labmeeting, CIOzone is available for IT Managers, INmobile for Wireless Industry Executives, and Reuters Space for Financial Fund Managers (it must be fun to be a part of that network right now). These networks aren't trying to compete with the Facebooks or LinkedIns of the world. Instead they are looking to fill the specific informational needs of their industries. In their worldview, professionals can be members of two or more networks, one for everybody they know and one to focus on their professional needs.

While social networking sites continually attempt to increase the size of their networks, ProNets are aware of their niche presentation. Some sites, like SERMO for physicians, seek a high level of exclusivity in their membership. If they can't verify your credentials as an MD or DO and your place of employment, you can't get in.

In the interest of complete disclosure, GlobalSpec, the parent of company of CR4 is seriously investigating the development of a ProNet for Engineers. I'm curious about your thoughts on such a network. As of this moment, there isn't a ProNet for "us." Our very own social media site CR4 does contain some aspects of one, but it differs in very specific ways. CR4 is a community site designed for users to exchange ideas, retrieve answers to important questions and keep track of industry trends. While members may find and communicate with each other via their posts or by joining an affinity user group, meaningful individual connection is not as important as the exchange of ideas.

So:

  1. What would you expect to find in a professional network aimed at engineers?
  2. What specific tools and technologies would be of greatest importance?
  3. How would you expect such a site to differ from CR4?

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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/13/2008 8:17 AM

Hi Chris,

I am Indian Engineer my comments to your queeries are as under:-

  1. What would you expect to find in a professional network aimed at engineers?
  2. It should be like Blog where Engineers can express their opinions on the current topics, personal experiences which they would like to share with others. Expertise they can provide to each other.
  3. What specific tools and technologies would be of greatest importance? Any technology which is connected to enginnering profession. It can be like any other Blog but only related to engineering.
  4. How would you expect such a site to differ from CR4? CR4 is problem solving site. Where you put up a problem which many engineers try to solve or help in solving the problem. Here you can not express you opinons or experiences.
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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/13/2008 8:24 AM

For a professional network to work it would need real people with real profiles. Instead of Silas Marner, I'd be my real name attached to my job and company.

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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/13/2008 8:31 AM

First a question: Will this new site be for Engineers Only, or will it be fore those qualified in their own fields to be engineers but don't have the papers to prove it.

Responses to your questions:

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a. Valuable tools for every trade like online calculators, links for sponsored equipment lines as well as links to component manufacturers and dealers.

b. Intel on the latest technology for different applications, broken down by application and technology. I.E mechanical, electrical, pnuematic, hydraulic, etc.

c. a link to discussion forums like CR4 for just the purpose that this site serves.

2. You have to have linke to all High quality tool manufacturers, for both electrical and mechanical tools. With discounts for being a member of the site.

3. Not much in the forum section but the main section would be more like a news site with articles about new technologies and ideas, with a little light humor, just because I think everyone needs a break sometime.

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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/13/2008 10:06 AM

Hi double_j_b,

The question of "just engineer" vs. professionals working in an engineering environment is one we've discussed at length. Our prevailing thought is that the latter is the way to go. Exclusivity, a la the SERMO example I used in the original post, wouldn't be possible. While MD and ODs have to be licenced and all doctors working at a given hospital are public knowledge, there's no "Engineering Rolodex." There are different degrees, licensure programs differ from state to state (let alone country to country), and even these are not necessary to do one's job. On a personal note, I'm not an engineer, even though I live and breathe engineering and technology - so I'd have to be excluded.

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10/13/2008 11:06 AM

I can see the difficulty of being part of site admin if you had to recuse yourself due to a lack of post-name initials (P.E., C.E., M.E., etc.). Totally awkward. Not to dwell on it too much, as you seem to have rejected exclusivity, but I am a scientist, not an engineer. I have worked with and around more engineers than Casey Jones, so I sometimes think/talk like one anyway. And a lot of the P.E.'s of various sorts I have interacted with were only marginally engineers anyway...(I didn't say that out loud, did I?).

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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/13/2008 2:17 PM

Hi Chris,

I would also have to exclude my self as a papered engineer.

As a Social networking you will need to add a social forum other than engineering, say a BS room where individuals and small groups can hive off the main group to interact.

Some of us will be less than average at tact and diplomacy where others will be social butterflies. You will also get chaos mongers in a totally open social forum.

So exclusive membership has its perks but limits diversity so as a suggestion: no guests ( not because I need to know who they are but CR4 does to ban the unruly ); Maybe a different hierarchy than gurus but other than social butterflies being nodes who seem to know everyone I'm out of my league computer socialising wise.

CR4 has been my engineering network and I have made good friends and contacts here. The goal as I see it is to make that easy while limiting frustration and miss-communication (and she can be a real pain). I have never felt a need to Face Book or other but if that is a positive direction to my networking and growth I'm all ears.(ok keyboard and eyes)

I do know that people do not like being taken out of their comfort zone but to grow the must, so they need a better rut (tech term) to fall into, out of their known one. To much change to fast and many will balk (additional tech term).

So my next suggestion it make a long term flexible plan and implement it in swallow able stages. Flexible because social engineering of engineers is a dynamic that makes governments nervous. Engineers as a rule are independent, highly intelligent in at least one dynamic, question authority or anybody or thing else for that matter, and like to act not just talk.

You have a brain pool of unlimited ability to create this with if you can organise it constructively. I would add charismatically but I've never seen you make anything but a well thought out statement. Very rare in this day and age.

So in a nut shell what is in it for CR4 to grow and what is in it for CR4s members to enjoy. Combine the two for a win-win.

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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/14/2008 2:49 AM

Hi Chris,

Papered Engineer or practical engineer? what difference it makes if person with vast experience participates in the blog?. He is shararing freely his practical knowledge, there are many skilled people throughout the world who have much deeper knowledge than qualified engineer because he has spent many years in the feild and have gained engineering expertise.

It doesnt any difference to me if person is qualified or certified to contribute in the Blog.

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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/14/2008 7:24 AM

CR4 needs to become more professional so take steps to ensure that this happens moving forward. I was recently banned from the CR4 for my political views.

I would be more than willing to give my real name and credentials. The feeling is that this would carry more weight and weed out some of the false threads.

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10/14/2008 11:18 AM

Dear Guest,

I regularly espouse my political views. But about how it effects the topic and I try to be heavy on the tact and diplomacy, because unless I have the hard verifiable data to back it up it is just opinion.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/espouse

2 : to take up and support as a cause : become attached to

Many times I bite my tung even when I have the hard data because I want people to think, not harden their convictions to understanding what is going on. The truth can be very uncomfortable to ones beliefs.

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10/14/2008 12:14 PM

And let's face it, politics is all too often as much a belief system as a matter of facts and data. Which may be just as well, because people being people, even facts can have supporters and detractors based upon opinions. And both sides can have a legitimate position.

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10/14/2008 12:23 PM

And can both be wrong or right depending on the desired outcome. Unexpected consequences (times expected by some) seem to play a big part of our politics as well.

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10/14/2008 12:43 PM

Oh, indeed! "Crisis management" has become a political way of doing business, it seems.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd sure feel a lot more comfortable if there was a place to check on the ballot for "none of the above". Maybe we could get the major parties to go back and try again?!?

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10/14/2008 2:25 PM

Because my right to vote was voided by fraud I am out spoken of errors in the present system.

The "write in" candidate should be used much more for the reason of our two party system both owe the same entity for all debts incurred. They seem to value their pocket books much higher than the countries freedoms.

We need Statesmen not boot-lickers to a foreign bank. (foreign to our government)

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10/14/2008 12:33 PM

All very true. But when a political topic gets hot, don't take sides depending on political party. But that is what happened here. Shame on the Administration for banning one side from the forum, but not the other on a topic that had nothing whatsoever to do with engineering, science, or technology.

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10/14/2008 3:11 PM

This must be a great forum if they ban you . . . . and you still come back for more.

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Re: A Professional Network For Engineers

10/15/2008 7:24 AM

Omg topic has suddenly changed to politics. Would you all give answers to what Chris is asking so that he can design blog accordingly.

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