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If Spacley Sprockets and Cogswell Cogs Can Make Them, Can You?

Posted January 22, 2009 9:58 AM by frankd20

My snow blower broke; it is an old machine, but has worked great for many years. The problem is that the front auger stopped spinning because a sprocket got loose and worn-down by the chain. Getting a new sprocket from the snow blower manufacturer didn't seem possible, as the machine is very old and the sprocket is welded onto the shaft. I decided that instead of scrapping the machine, which has an engine that runs great, I would see if I could make my own sprocket from some scrap metal.

My first thought was to look online to see if anyone had directions on how to make a sprocket, but I found nothing. My second thought was to cut a round blank on the lathe, put it on a rotary table on a milling machine, and cut each tooth. However, this seemed like a lot of work. My third thought on how to do this was to start with metal larger than the sprocket, drill holes for each tooth and the center, and then cut away until I got to the holes. This method seemed easier and is what I went with.

I started by measuring the chain pitch and the diameter of one chain link that meshes with the sprocket. I also looked at my old mangled sprocket and counted the number of teeth on it. Multiplying the number of teeth by the chain pitch gives you a circumference – and with a little math, a radius of a circle to draw. I had a friend make a template on a computer with my dimensions; I printed the template out and taped it to my metal scrap.

Using a center punch, I marked the center and all the points where the spokes intersect the circle. I carefully drilled out all these points on a drill press, using a drill bit that was matched to the diameter of the chain link part. I found it useful to drill the center hole first, mount the part on the lathe, and cut a small circle grove to make sure everything was centered.

With all the holes drilled, I cut off as much excess metal as I could and then mounted the part on the lathe. On the lathe, I cut the part until it was round and then started cutting into all the holes I drilled for the teeth. I'd imagine that with a lot of patience and no lathe someone could do this with a bench grinder, although it might not be as accurate.

Now that the part was beginning to look like a sprocket, I took a hand grinder and cut away the little excess metal on the top of each tooth. I also used the hand grinder to round off some of the sharp parts and then tried meshing it with the chain; it was a perfect fit.


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01/22/2009 2:26 PM

Hi frankd20 - you're putting some of the machinists I've worked with over the years to shame, plus scoring many "green" points from my point of view with your project. Only concern I'd have is metal tempering at the teeth (for more strength), but maybe not a concern. Many thanks for sharing your project here. - Larry

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01/22/2009 2:48 PM

The scrap metal I used was very hard and has caused me problems in the past when machining. So in this case I annealed the metal to soften it utilizing my vegetable oil burner. I was thinking about hardening the finished part with a similar process, but decided against it as I was afraid it might warp the part. I figure the original sprocket was likely soft as the teeth got mushed up instead of chipping or cracking. As I have the process down now if I need to make another sprocket and harden it, it wouldn't take a lot of work.

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01/23/2009 7:34 AM

Maybe take a look at trying to key the shaft...if this is anything line my franken-snowblower this chain drives the wheels so it turns relatively slowly and with fairly high torque so you'll need something significant to keep the piece of art from spinning on the shaft.

Anyone have any experience with DIY key'd shafts?

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01/23/2009 11:03 AM

I just welded it to the shaft like the original sprocket was as their isn't enough room for a keyed shaft, the snowblower has been working great with the new part. The picture of the sprocket on a shaft with a large bolt, is just a bolt I used to hold the part on the lathe for machining.

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01/23/2009 11:17 AM

Ah...on the lathe! Glad it's working for you.

P.S. You still working on your spy plane? ;)

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01/23/2009 11:38 AM

"P.S. You still working on your spy plane? ;)"

It has not been forgotten, just that I have had too many projects like ceilings and walls that I need to get done as opposed to the ones I want to get done. In the cold weather, snowblowers, heating systems and things like that tend to take precedence.

I have no shortage of projects I want to do, just a shortage of time and money to do them all. One day you will see a post and a video from my completed spy plane. I will say over time ive thought about adding more stuff to it, like now I really want to put in a GPS in it.

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01/23/2009 12:43 PM

I dabbled a bit with the electronics required to make a rc plane into a very simple uav.

I collect components and tested small subsystems but never got around to putting it all together.

Current collection: (allsamples I got from companies except the gps)

  • lots of PIC microcontrollers
  • analog and digital MEMS 3d accelerometers (for comparison)
  • 1 single axis mems gyro
  • handheld gps for basic nmea output (going to change this for a smaller breakout board for size/weight)

I've put together and tested an 8 channel servo controller as well as a simple circuit to parse the output from the gps. I figured I'd try and make it all modular and slave most of the subsystems under the main one.

Fun stuff!

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01/23/2009 12:54 PM

Sounds like you are a good ways into to the project. When you get it or any other project you have to a more finished state and would like to post about it, let me know. I can set you up to post it in this blog.

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01/23/2009 1:11 PM

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind.

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01/23/2009 8:24 AM

I very much enjoyed reading about your solution, as well as the solutions of others who reply to this blog. I relate much better to actual solutions than to suggested solutions by those who don't fully comprehend the problem.

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01/23/2009 9:55 AM

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suggested solutions by those who don't fully comprehend the problem.

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There was no stated problem in the original post. And only two suggestions about possible improvements. After the thought and effort put into this sprocket it would be a shame for something to break or prematurely wear out.

Unless your comment only has to do with you relating better to something, which is off-topic.

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