Quality Control

The FDA is not the organization to do quality control, as they simply cannot be trusted. They have become the icon of corruption in the world, even worse than the greedy financial sector, as Wallstreet was never charged with improving and maintaining public health. The FDA kills more people per year than any other organization on the planet. so NO.

Chris

The FDA kills more people per year than any other organization on the planet.

Agreed, and the FDA can still kill by doing nothing.

phoenix911

Would anyone be interested in some Fen-Fen?

Right, like there aren't ample examples of "approved drugs" that have killed or debilitated thousands over the years sometimes the effects only becoming known decades down the road. Thanks FDA for taking such good care of us. Couple that with the fact that one of the reason drugs cost so much is the delays and trials that are required by the FDA.

Life is dangerous. You have to pay attention and fend for yourself. The "experts" really aren't. It's just other humans, fallible as any of us making their best guess.

Life is dangerous. You have to pay attention and fend for yourself.

correct, everything can kill, hell it does not have to be a drug........hell too much oxygen can kill.

phoenix911

DEFINITELY NOT!

As stated above, the FDA can not fulfill its current mission let alone be burdened with the additional oversight responsibilities of supplements.

There are plenty of good companies out there providing high quality products. Astute consumers know who they are and why they cost more than the imported low price junk that has been the source of the problems.

As noted in all of the previous posts, H*ll no.

The FDA, Western Medicine, and the Big Pharmaceutical boys who spend more money lobbying then anything else have killed, maimed, and sickened more people than the whole group of Supplement Companies.

Just look at all of the "mandatory" shots recommended of late including Tamiflu right now.

Oh, and it is not "mandatory" to get the shots and immunizations in any US state, we still have some individual rights.

and the Big Pharmaceutical boys who spend more money lobbying

Yes they want to make everything a disease, they have FDA in thier back pocket most times

so then vitaims natural or processed have to be regulated, or they can stop making claims,

phoenix911

Personally, I see no reason to take something that isn't food in the first place. A well balanced diet provides everything the body needs. Any time we tinker with Mother Nature, we end up getting burned in the end. (and in the wallet too.)

In addition to the quality control issues that pop up from time to time, I have yet to see conclusive evidence that these things really help in any meaningful way. Some studies say yes, others say no. It may depend in large part of who sponsors the study.

I know people who swear by some supplements for joint pain, etc. Of course, eating a well-balanced diet and dropping 50 pounds would probably have done wonders for their joint pain too.

True Brave Sir Robin,

Personally, I see no reason to take something that isn't food in the first place. A well balanced diet provides everything the body needs.

But who eats balance diets, today in a world that looks for easy fast answers as the eat thier fast foods.

I believe a small potion actually have a well balanced meal.

I know people who swear by some supplements for joint pain, etc. Of course, eating a well-balanced diet and dropping 50 pounds would probably have done wonders for their joint pain too.

right again...........they tend to blame it on genes...., bad knees, bad back,....and in a way they are right.........thier parents were probally fat too......I'n sorry, the term is obese.

Great Answer... "And the Truth shall set you.. well, at least on the basic path to recovery."

Excellent answer, the best yet.

Sugars added to high gluten buns and fast food restaurants and I imagine everything else they sell.

Caramelized buns used to be a catch phrase for McDonalds if memory serves me well, and I like the idea of eating ripe fruits and vegetables, something few "civilized" westerners have ever experienced.

I do the colloidal heavy metals in addition to supplements.

I also suggest reading up on hydrogen peroxide and it's benefits.

Best sinus decongestant I have ever found, suggested by an MD originally from the states who practices a combination of all of the medicinal ways in Germany now, where homeopath is recognized. I do a 50/50 mix of purified water and the peroxide as a nasal spray. Amazing results!

I am also studying Chinese and Indian healing arts when I get time.

A hospital is just about 2 miles from my house, they encourage the surrounding suburbs to take advantage of their cafeteria.

My girlfriend and myself just ate there. On todays menu we had:

- Boneless pork chops,

- Mixed vegetables, (green and yellow Beans and carrots),

- Twice baked potato

- and two drinks

total for both meals $10.80.

Very reasonable price and a balance meal and convenient, Yes we eat there often.

phoenix911

I would rather have increased FDA funding be spent on guaranteeing the quality and safety of the food chain, as we're pretty much at the mercy of the supermarkets for our source of food.

In regards to the question of the need to supplement, farms since about the middle of the last century have become increasingly depleted of naturally occurring nutrients, which brought about the use of chemical fertilizers. (Some believe that this is linked to the rise in such ailments as asthma and diabetes, to name a few.) Foods just don't contain all the necessary nutrients necessary for the body to function properly in a world increasingly filled with toxins trying to attack us, so supplementation has become a necessity.

Unfortunately, consumers need to become educated about the companies that produce the vitamins and supplements they are taking. Have there been any product recalls? What is the source of the raw materials in their products? Do they perform the necessary quality control checks to guarantee a safe and effective product? Do the products come from chemical sources, or do they contain whole plant sources.

Some companies, such as Nutrilite, own thousands of acres of certified 100% organic farms world-wide, control everything from the seed to the pill, and perform hundreds of tests monthly to guarantee the highest quality possible. This explains why there has never been a product recall in over 75 years and why they are the world's largest producer of vitamins and supplements.

By supporting only reputable companies such as this, sub-standard sources can be driven from the marketplace when their market share goes to zero. It's better to pay a little more for a better quality product than to pay for more government bureaucracy.

Welcome to CR4 GlenEarl:

I would rather have increased FDA funding be spent on guaranteeing the quality and safety of the food chain,

You thing the best way is to let the government handle quality........only if they take the stance China did, if they don't hold up.

as we're pretty much at the mercy of the supermarkets for our source of food.

What about transportation, drought, crop or animal disease (such as blit, Mad Cow, or back in the 70's were in Michigan the feed for Dairy cows got contaminanted)......supermarkets is only a link in the chain.

And FDA can not handle accidents such as contamimnation...basically no organization can.

(Some believe that this is linked to the rise in such ailments as asthma and diabetes, to name a few.)

You need to support facts...I can counter with having this ailments is because people are living in a more sterile environment and their immune system is weak, but that would be its only my opinion.

Foods just don't contain all the necessary nutrients necessary for the body to function properly in a world increasingly filled with toxins trying to attack us, so supplementation has become a necessity.

True, such genetically improved strains, such as seedless watermelons, and tomatoes. as well as disease resistance crops

phoenix911

Check out the Council for Responsible Nutrition at www.crnusa.org for a lot of good information.

I'm biased since I'm a Reliv distributor, but then I've been taking there products for 18 and a half years so I guess I can trust them so far. Check out www.reliv.com. The website lists all the ingredients in the products, the company has it's own manufacturing plant and does double testing of all products. They have been in business for 20 years and never had a problem w/ any of their products so. yah I trust my supplements. ( if you ahve any questions, email me at livagain1@yahoo.com ( oh by the way my ID, to Reliv is to livagain <GRIN>. These are High quality products. As to do we need supplements, well we are poisoning ourselves w/ the food we eat, the air we breath and the water we drink. Most of our foods are grown in soils that have been overfarmed and under fertilized, usually w/ just enough fertilizer to make them grow, but not containg the trace elements we need. So yes we need supplements. . As for the FDA, they do NOT regulate vitamins or supplements. They only get involved if there is a problem or complaint.