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Complacent Society or Survival Strategy?

Posted July 25, 2009 7:36 AM

When man discovered fire, he was most likely amazed and astonished for a long time before he finally took its power for granted. Today some people could be in a burning building and probably not notice until the flames were at their feet. Over the millennia, we've seen it all, or have we? It takes quite a bit to shock people into noticing and being truly concerned. So, what degree of news would it take to grab your attention?

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07/25/2009 8:49 AM

Its called desensitizing, if you are confronted with volience, stress or danger long enough you become desensitzed, seemly accept it.

Some people react differently to it.

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07/25/2009 5:05 PM

"So, what degree of news would it take to grab your attention?"

The truth.

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07/25/2009 6:21 PM

Second that.

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11/13/2009 3:05 PM

Whose truth do you want? my truth, your truth, the drug user's truth, the drug dealer's truth, lawyer's truth, or maybe the politicians truth? Truth is in the eye of the beholder. We all have different mental states and view things very differently.

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07/25/2009 11:36 PM

Poor Hungry Nations with nothing but nuclear weapons to sell piques my interest. Shock, Vibration & Noise. Appropriate.

In general Weapons of Mass Destruction bother me.

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07/26/2009 12:54 PM

In general Weapons of Mass Destruction bother me.

Fictitious ones conjured up for convenience bother me

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07/26/2009 10:23 AM

This is a great comment. There seems to be a feeling of nothing bad can happen to them. A great example is to tell management that something is not perfect in the way they are managing.

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07/26/2009 1:14 PM

I'm really beginning to wonder about this myself.

Here in the United States, our Constitution was written as a set of limits to the power and scope of the federal government, a fact seemingly lost to the general population. In the meantime, our rulers, excuse me, our public servants continue to pass laws that sacrifice my civil rights on the altar of the civil rights of every crackpot, screwball and pervert that can make enough noise to be heard.

I have been watching this happen since the Carter administration, and it was due to our reaction (or the lack thereof) to the taking of hostages in Iran that converted me from my liberal mindset to a much more conservative point of view; I was not put on this earth to please you. I'm causing you no harm, leave me be.

It would seem that the prospect of beggaring levels of taxation has begun to rouse the populace to remind the political class that they can be replaced. The question is, will the lesson take? Or, after this crisis is dealt with, we go back to watching the slow and incremental death of our freedom?

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07/26/2009 4:06 PM

It is scary that mob rule and democracy are the same thing to most people.

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07/26/2009 4:53 PM

True, that's why this is supposed to be a representative republic. I'm tired of people talking about our "democracy" when this clearly isn't. As a matter of fact, my post was supposed to point out that in its current form, our republic isn't. Until the people wake up to this fact and vote accordingly, we will be stuck with more of the same until we all become vassals of the state.

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07/27/2009 4:05 PM

Nah, worse than that.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy..." ~~ paraphrased from Sir Alex Fraser Tytler (1742-1813) Scottish jurist and historian.

We are well on our way down this path, with the entitlement attitude of those who voted for Obama.

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07/26/2009 5:13 PM

Your concerns was address from earlier threads. A college professor predicted back in the 70's that Russia would be more Democratic than the US, and the US would be more socialized the Russia.

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07/26/2009 6:19 PM

Hell!

If we were more socialized than Russia in the 70's WE would be ruling this country through councils of action, i.e. Soviets (But not the Stalinized ones that arose after the death of Lenin in 1924 and the expulsion of Trotsky).

What is happening and catches my attention is what the major press are not telling us.

For instance in England there have been numerous occupations of factories by workers threatened by the proposed closing of those factories, the occupying workers demanding their Labour government nationalize the industry. Among those factories have been GM plants.

There have been no reports of that in the press. In the on-line editions you only find it, if you find it at all, when you enter a search on the papers search engine.

I am talking about the NY Times, New York Daily News, NY Post, Washington Post, San Fran Examiner, Chicago Sun Times.

They also have not told us that there have been face to face talks of the U.S. government with the Secretary General of the Political Council of the Iraqi Resistance and that when the US would not agree to certain terms, for instance exclusion from talks of the current Iraq government in that the Resistance asserts they are mere US puppets, as well as other issues, the Resistance told them to stuff it and walked away.

This has been reported in the Iraq newspaper Al-Bayyinah al-Jadidah and also on Dubai television in a telephone interview.

This business of the talks with the Iraq Resistance is very important because those of us that follow history know it signals the coming downfall and defeat of the U.S. military there.

That's the kind of stuff that makes me pay attention.

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07/26/2009 7:19 PM

in the 70's the professor only predicted what will occur.

And my opinion for a socialize government to proceed is to control the press.

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07/27/2009 8:57 PM

The question is, will the lesson take? Or, after this crisis is dealt with, we go back to watching the slow and incremental death of our freedom?

It may go on a while before the realization sets that what we're experiencing isn't a ramp up of socialism but fascism.

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07/27/2009 2:34 AM

This is all far too political...we all know that it's the money that rules.
There is only one thing that will overthrow the money and that's direct action, or religious extremism.
It's just glorified scissors, paper, stones
I have no patience with any of 'em as few are truly altruistic or interested in the good of society.
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10/24/2009 10:35 PM

What concerns me most these days is kids that know how to pop popcorn in the microwave, but don't know how to build a fire.

Humanity is mostly scavenging from grocery stores with central bank value vouchers.

The democracies exist for the beneficiaries, both are fictions. The real is the private, private law (UCC), private banks (FED and other private creditors) and living souls who control their benefit/privilege package as they know the current social contract to be pre-paid, per international agreements that put us all on a debt system, for our benefit, to accomodate the growth via tech that the 20th century promised.

A person in law can be a corporation, or a living soul that answers for or to the fiction.

A 14th amendment citizen has never taken a breath.

If you poke around, you'll find folks that are helping with our collective finances in private and marvelous ways. Start with finding the difference between common law and admiralty maritime, and don't stop, continue past redemption and HJR-192 of 1933.

The degree of news, to answer the original question, that would get my attention, would be something like;

"Americans collectively stop watching television, break out of their cargo-cult trance, and start fabricating objects and institutions of lasting value!"

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