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Blasting Neutrinos Under Wisconsin May Yield Big Payoff

Posted August 17, 2009 2:59 PM

From Wash Post Technology:

Scientists are playing an exotic game of pitch and catch between Illinois and Minnesota. Their catcher's mitt is solid iron, weighs 5,500 tons, and is parked in northern Minnesota in an abandoned iron mine. With millions of dollars from the federal stimulus package, construction crews are now building a second mitt near the Canadian border. It's even heavier, some 15,000 tons, and is made of 385,000 liquid-filled cells of PVC plastic. Five hundred miles to the south is the pitcher: Fermilab, a sprawling U.S. government laboratory west of Chicago where physicists do violent things with tiny particles. The objects in flight are very strange particles called neutrinos. Fermilab scientists have figured out how to generate a beam of neutrinos and send it across Wisconsin to the big detectors in northern Minnesota.

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08/17/2009 7:39 PM

" ...scientists have figured out how to generate a beam of neutrinos and send it across Wisconsin to the big detectors in northern Minnesota"

That'll put Sig. Marconi's nose out of joint, then.

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08/18/2009 3:54 AM

And it Minnesota misses the catch? "Excuse me! Winnipeg! Can we have our neutrinos back, please, Buddy?"

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08/18/2009 8:03 AM

So they spend $143 million to shoot "countless" neutrinos, and they only catch 1 or 2 a day. Our tax dollars at work. I feel stimulated. And we get what out of this?

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08/18/2009 8:36 AM

A chance to bombard Winnipeg with neutrinos!

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08/18/2009 9:39 AM

[Re: "And we get what out of this?"] ... 'yeah', to bombarding them Nawtheners, but also, we get that warm, fuzzy feeling for helping to keep them FermiLabbers employed anuthe' year or so.

Workin with 'matter' that can't be seen or felt.

THIS tops EVEN that old story about the "Cush-maker"...!!! (...or is it spelled "Koosh!maker"...?)

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08/18/2009 10:42 AM

"What good is a new born baby?" A. Einstein comment to a person complaining about will some research be any good.

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08/18/2009 2:13 PM

I totally agree - basic research into the fundamental physics of the universe is a HUGE WASTE OF TIME! That kind of knowledge has absolutely no application.

They should be spending that money to protect our borders from Canadians.

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08/18/2009 2:55 PM

I'm not sure if your joking or explaining why there's a big hole in the ground in Texas.

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08/18/2009 3:04 PM

I was just this morning sitting in a meeting where we were discussing the logistics of doing some radiation testing at Brookhaven National Labs (we need 1000 MeV particle beams to test electronics for space flight) and thinking to myself, "this would be so much easier if we had just built that damned supercollider, and I wouldn't have to fly in a damned coach seat for six hours".

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08/18/2009 3:11 PM

Canadians have no interest in the usa

more like the usa have interest in Canada

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08/18/2009 3:14 PM

We only want your health care system.

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08/18/2009 3:30 PM

and oil and lumber and ....

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08/18/2009 3:33 PM

hey - it's not like you guys will ever use it.

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08/18/2009 3:44 PM

ya ok...

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08/22/2009 10:18 AM

and natural gas, fish... and you already have half our great lakes and niagara falls!

but if you gave up the embargo on cuba, you could send neutrinos there too, and maybe get back some senoritas in return.

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08/22/2009 10:12 AM

sweet nothings whispered in your ear!

Ask Jorrie.. he will know. but I think it is Zero Point Energy research.

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09/08/2009 10:56 AM

Neutrino research explores the fundamentals of nature and adds to the sum of human knowledge. If the "big payoff" doesn't happen this year, it WILL happen in the future. It always does.

Fermilab is practically in my back yard - one of the coolest places on Earth! (Fermi, that is, not my yard.)

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