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-SCN (Thiocyanate) (Sulphur Cyanide) - Terrestrials' Ticket out of the Brine?

12/29/2015 10:51 PM

Much ado lately about Amygdalin (I almost got banned from Wiki), which is in all grains, seeds, beans (I know I'm being redundant here), most tree barks, many edible grasses and other food plants too numerous to mention, and is a major part of the Immune System of plants.

It fuels the Lactoperoxidase-Thiocyanate-Hydrogen Peroxide System, which is that part of our Immune System that is the Firewall of our mucus membranes of the lungs, mouth, sinuses, throat, and the surface of the eyes.

When mammals eat plants, the Amygdalin is metabolized in the mammalian system to Thiocyanate (-SCN), benzylaldehyde and to molecules of sugar.

Thiocyanate is the powerful antioxidant that the White Blood Cells use to protect themselves as they oxidize and destroy bacteria, molds, toxins and dead cell tissues.

The antioxidant role of thiocyanate in the pathogenesis of cystic fibrosis and other inflammation-related diseases

Benzylaldehyde is used by the body to break down cysts and tumors.

Antitumor activity of benzaldehyde. - PubMed - NCBI

So... Was Amygdalin the key to moving onto and surviving on land, away from the protective concentration of salt that basically keeps (kept) the oceans devoid of pathogens?

And... If we are now processing it completely out of our foods and even our feed grains, are we doomed to live lives on maintenance meds?

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12/29/2015 11:42 PM

Take two diazepam, disable your overwrought shift key, and call again tomorrow.

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Re: -SCN (Thiocyanate) (Sulphur Cyanide) - Terrestrials' Ticket out of the Brine?

12/29/2015 11:45 PM
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Re: -SCN (Thiocyanate) (Sulphur Cyanide) - Terrestrials' Ticket out of the Brine?

12/30/2015 7:57 AM

No medical recommendations, that wasn't the question.

The Lactoperoxidase-Thiocyanate-Hydrogen Peroxide System in the mammalian mucus membranes exists as a firewall against the tissue invasion of bacteria, molds, allergens, viruses and environmental toxins. This has been known about for over a century.

Amygdalin, C20 H27 N O11, isn't Laetrile which is C14 H15 N O7 (a feeble try at producing a patentable alternative).

Laetrile is missing one of the sugar rings and when it was produced, they didn't understand that both rings were necessary for full metabolic assimilation of the by-products, Thiocyanate and Benzylaldehyde.

Laetrile isn't a cure for anything, maybe bad breath.

Thiocyanate is crucial for the Immune System to function at 100% efficiency, otherwise the White Blood Cells self-oxidize themselves when they create Hydrogen Peroxide and Chloride to oxidize the bacteria, molds, viruses (in the presence of Iodide) and normally occuring dead cell tissues.

-SCN is the one crucial antioxidant the mammalian Immune System and the mammalian Cellular Repair System need to funcion properly.

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Re: -SCN (Thiocyanate) (Sulphur Cyanide) - Terrestrials' Ticket out of the Brine?

12/30/2015 1:03 AM

From Wiki:

<Start Wiki excerpt>

Amygdalin (from Ancient Greek: ἀμυγδαλή amygdálē "almond"), is a poisonous cyanogenic glycoside found in many plants, but most notably in the seeds (kernels) of apricot, peach, bitter almond, and plum.

Since the early 1950s, both amygdalin and a modified form named laetrile have been promoted as alternative cancer treatments, often using the misnomer Vitamin B17 .[1] But studies have found them to be clinically ineffective in the treatment of cancer, as well as potentially toxic or lethal when taken by mouth, due to cyanide poisoning. Neither amygdalin nor laetrile are vitamins.

The promotion of laetrile to treat cancer has been described in the medical literature as a canonical example of quackery,[2][3] and as "the slickest, most sophisticated, and certainly the most remunerative cancer quack promotion in medical history."[1]

<End Wiki excerpt>

Do you have sources for your far flung ideas, or are they merely something you thought up in your pharmaceutical experimentation?

What caused the "(I almost got banned from Wiki)" incident?

<mikerho scoffs>

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12/30/2015 8:12 AM

Ahhh...the Wiki of Discontent! If you look at the editing on the amygdalin wiki you'll see a constant, daily hacking of the page. Why both Amygdalin and Laetrile are on the same page I don't understand unless someone is trying to confuse people...

The ban almost occurred when a young Arab (judging by his monikor) suggested eating apple seeds was analogous to poisonining yourself and I simply responded that dates have many times more Amygdalin in them than apple seeds because they are preserved by drying (in contrast to toasting and roasting it out of nuts).

I love dates! One of my fav Holiday treats.

Amygdalin breaks down at 210F so most processed foods have it 'processed' out of them.

To understand the original premise of this thread it might be necessary to actually skim over this:

The antioxidant role of thiocyanate in the pathogenesis of cystic fibrosis and other inflammation-related diseases

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12/30/2015 8:29 AM

Scroll down to the tables in this paper and you'll see we are getting only about 1/100th the daily requiremnt of amygdalin in processed foods as opposed to 'natural' ones.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259514245_Amygdalin_content_of_seeds_kernels_and_food_products_commercially-available_in_the_UK

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03/02/2016 7:09 PM

Hmmmm...It appears that a French scientist has found the Human Biome Project database Metabolite ID# HMDB35030 is missing from all of Monsanto's patented GM and GMO food and feed grains as well as it's patented GM and GMO vegetables.

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12/31/2015 8:43 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_heme-dependent_peroxidases

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1169026/

[Superoxide generation and human cytomegalovirus infection]. - PubMed - NCBI

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02/19/2016 9:43 AM

LPO system in the mouth prevents oral placque and gum problems...

Evidence for the involvement of thiocyanate in the inhibition of Candida albicans by Lactobacillus acidophilus.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2110612

Inhibitory effect of saliva on glutamic acid accumulation by Lactobacillus acidophilus and the role of the lactoperoxidase-thiocyanate system.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4957025

Inhibition of dental plaque acid production by the salivary lactoperoxidase antimicrobial system.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7298182

The protective effect of peroxidase and thiocyanate against hydrogen peroxide toxicity assessed by the uptake of [3H]-thymidine by human gingival fibroblasts cultured in vitro.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6589987

Combined inhibitory effect of fluoride and hypothiocyanite on the viability and glucose metabolism of Streptococcus mutans, serotype c.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9467392

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03/08/2016 7:39 AM

Apparently this science was first 'discovered' in a starvation research project resulting in a complete cure for a very rare disease called Noma which was perfected at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in 1943-44 but kept secret because of the war and it's potential use in bioweapon research.

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02/19/2016 10:38 AM

Role of Thiocyanate in the lungs:

Biochemical mechanisms and therapeutic potential of pseudohalide thiocyanate in human health.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25564094

Increased Concentration of Iodide in Airway Secretions Is Associated with Reduced Respiratory Syncytial Virus Disease Severity

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930944/

In vitro antiviral activity of hypothiocyanite against A/H1N1/2009 pandemic influenza virus.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23540488

Apoptotic role of natural isothiocyanate from broccoli (Brassica oleracea italica) in experimental chemical lung carcinogenesis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23373711

Apoptotic role of natural isothiocyanate from broccoli (Brassica oleracea italica) in experimental chemical lung carcinogenesis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23373711

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulforaphane

The lactoperoxidase system links anion transport to host defense in cystic fibrosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17204267

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03/08/2016 7:30 AM

In a double blind study to determine if Congenital Lyme Disease is curable by the Wiegman Pulsed Protocol a surprise discovery is unfolding at Day 16 into the trial. Because nearly all of the 286 participants around the world, in 16 different countries were sourcing their own food supplements in the two week long pre-antibiotic Immune System build-up, the many Autistic Children(over 50#) in the study who had a severe reaction to their 2nd year vaccinations STARTED TALKING AGAIN!

This is happening before the 60 day pulsed antibiotic Mino/Tindy (one dose of each, every other day, amount based on weight) portion of the trial to eliminate Borrelia has even begun!

It turns out that they were non-verbal because of inflammation of the Superior Cervical Ganglion and that a diet rich in HMDB35030, sourced from non-GM and non-GMO foods rich in HMDB35030, corrected the near total Thiocyanate Deficiency, re-activating the Neutrophils so they are able to process antigen/antibody factors and eliminate the inflammation so that signals can now pass to the vocalization muscles and facial muscles too.

The children not only have their personalities intact, they are opinionated and are showing very high levels of energy as well.

More to come as trial proceeds...

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03/22/2016 11:41 PM

http://www.hmdb.ca/metabolites/HMDB35030

http://www.hmdb.ca/metabolites/HMDB01453

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05/25/2016 10:44 PM

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20160002277.PGNR.&OS=DN%2F20160002277&RS=DN%2F20160002277

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