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Who Can I Be?

08/07/2016 5:21 PM

Hello everyone.

I am a student in department of Industrial Engineering (IE), and I wonder that, after finishing university, in which sphere I can work (workplaces, companies and etc.) ?

Sincerely and with best regards,

Husein H.

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08/07/2016 5:58 PM

Consult your University careers department. Based on your previous posts you seem very lost in how to achieve what you actually want, and they are there to advise you.

Trying to be different and putting yourself above all the other IE's coming out of the University is going to be difficult, especially as you said so yourself, IE was not your first choice and hence you don't seem to really have the drive to raise yourself above others.

Also consider getting some work experience in some different fields of work and see if you can find what you really want in a career.

What was your first choice of course by the way and why did you not pursue it?

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08/08/2016 8:50 AM

Thanks for your response. At first I wanted management, or amrketing departments, but then I choosed this only because of father's will and that was my decision to do this just for HIM.

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08/08/2016 9:27 PM

There is an inherent problem of being yourself. If you want to do what you are doing then just do it. If you did not want it in the first place you better catch up with your wishes and start wanting what your are wanted to do.

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08/07/2016 6:12 PM

Playing 20 questions here will not help you.

You can work wherever you are good enough to get hired.

No crystal balls, mind readers, guidance counselors, employment agents here and no idea of who you are, how smart you are, what your grades and aptitude are or anything else that would actually help anyone advise you.

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08/08/2016 9:29 AM

Looks like I'm destined to be an engineer!

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08/08/2016 9:52 AM

Yep. But the good news is that you don't have to grow up to be one.

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08/07/2016 9:33 PM

You can become the manager of a well reputed company or a well respected engineer in your field.

But its you who sets the path.

What sort of interests do you have might guide you.

Just one thing is important, make sure you are who you are!

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08/09/2016 9:55 AM

You are correct in saying the OP sets the path. However, a very important part of that path is working for the appropriate employer/company, one that will not pigeon hole you, unless, of course, that is what you want (and believe me there are a lot of people who want exactly that). Your first job after graduating will likely set the rest of the path. If you do not get the variety that you want/seek, you will have to move on to something else whether it is by your choice or your employer's. Be prepared for some employment changes.

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08/08/2016 8:26 AM

There's a classic book, What Color Is Your Parachute?, that a couple of generations of new graduates/career-changers/generally befuddled people have consulted. This book is intended to help the reader develop insights into his or her interests and aptitudes and then to map these interests and aptitudes onto a career. I don't know how culture-specific the advice is. If you can find a copy in your university library, I'm guessing the advice will be useful. Libraries can't afford to spend money on resources of questionable usefulness.

Maybe it will help you know that you are not the first, and you won't be the last, undergraduate who is uncertain about choosing a career direction. You will get through this phase of your life just like many others have done. Don't get discouraged!

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08/08/2016 8:53 AM

Thank You very much, I am goin to get that book.

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08/08/2016 4:22 PM

I was reading that book, then I looked and saw my parachute was bright orange from flames! What to do when the company keeps scaling back instead of growing, and your retirement date is still more than a couple of years off?

Oh well, just a moment of enui'.

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08/08/2016 9:29 PM

Keep a spare parachute at all times. Dont wait until the company scales back. Upscale your life by doing something different sooner than the scaling back starts.

I am talking for myself, because scaling down has started already....

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08/09/2016 8:00 AM

Parachute's author write the book as a result of his own layoff. He was a pastor (mainline Protestant denomination, I forget which one). His congregation disbanded, and he couldn't find another due to the general shrinkage in mainline Protestant denominations. Ironically, the original Parachute was such a success he probably didn't' have to worry about jobs ever again. This isn't a solution that works for everyone, unfortunately.

What stuck with me about Parachute is the focus on understanding oneself, what you're good at, what you stink at, what makes you happy and what really turns you off. And what you can put up with. In today's entrepreneurial economy, a lot of people will find success not in working for a company but in starting their own companies, even if the company size is one -- themselves. That way you can do something you like/are good at/fits into an economic niche.

I hear you about having a burning parachute. It's particularly difficult for people over a certain age, who have a lot of experience and, quite possibly, no desire to uproot a settled life to move to a new job location, to find any kind of employment. I was laid off by a large IT, oops, services company in 2008. Took me 2 years to find another job within a reasonable commute of home. Could not be happier where I've ended up.

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08/08/2016 11:04 AM

That's a team decision. Part of the team is the hiring decision-maker, who has a serious problem to solve, and the rest of the team is the candidate, for whom it is a sales project. The forum during which the decision takes place is called the Interview. During the interview, find out what the problem is, and sell the hiring decision-maker the solution.

No-one here can answer the question. After all, no-one here is hiring.

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08/08/2016 10:29 PM

Don't take a passive role in deciding what you can do. It must be something you find intensely interesting. Try a number of things that are unimaginable to your parents. Don't listen to people who want you to take a sensible job. Ask your best friend what he thinks you are good at. Plan on having many careers.

Or you could just apply for a job at GE.

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08/09/2016 5:40 AM

That is a question that echoes through the ages.

"We know what we are,but not what we may become." -Shakespeare

Follow your heart's desire.

But realize that you may not now know what that really is.

Your road may be a long and winding,sometimes bumpy ride,with some false starts

and dead ends,but persevere,and eventually you will find your true calling,and

looking back, you will wonder how you got there.

Some people are blessed by knowing what their goals are from the start,but most

ordinary people have to wear many hats to find one that fits.

You are young.You have much potential ahead.

Explore many options.

IMHO,A Six Sigma certification would be a good tool to have on your list of abilities.

When you grow old,you will regret the things you didn't do when you were young a

lot more than the things that you did.

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08/09/2016 10:21 AM

Life is not a chess game, you can take back a bad move. You will have opportunities to reinvent yourself, so don't panic about a bad choice, but have enough courage to move on. Most people live in a small box; you must thrash around this world to find what has meaning to you. Being fair to yourself means being fair to all men. We all make mistakes, and happiness depends upon overcoming them. Find a soulmate.

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08/09/2016 11:15 AM

Soulmates are overrated. So is working for a company you do not believe in.

Make sure your good moves are really great ones, and your bad moves not so bad you can't back out of them. Never make a move that makes a permanent solution to a temporal problem, rather a temporary problem. While there is life, there is always hope, but hope needs inspiration with perspiration. You will find the perspiration part more fulfilling.

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08/09/2016 12:15 PM

Unfortunately there is a difference between perceived good and bad moves and actual good/bad moves.

And when a perceived good move that turned out to be bad, I always found out when your looking back at your best experience, at the time it occurred it didn't seem so great.

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08/09/2016 12:23 PM

at 27 years and counting, I can assure you that soulmates are not overrated.

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08/09/2016 1:33 PM

OK, then real ones, yes. People over use the term soulmate, however, and sometimes it is just an excuse to commit adultery.

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08/09/2016 1:10 PM

I had forgotten about the parachute book and seeing the title reminded me of "Who Moved My Cheese". Don't know if this will give the OP any help in setting his direction(s).

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08/09/2016 8:38 PM

Begin by asking yourself what you would chose to work at, if you were independently wealthy, and you did not have to work at all...

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08/17/2016 12:45 PM

Ultimately, (whoever) you become, that's who you must be...

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maybe this would help....

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08/22/2016 4:50 PM

I'm 66, collecting retirement and social security. I'm still not sure what I'm going to be when I grow up.

Find something that interests you and pursue it. Probability is you won't get precisely what you are after, but if you are hungry enough, sooner or later you become what you're going to become. I was a ChemEngr grad (after I got degrees in English Lit, Music and some others I can't quite remember) but I got a chance to work in power plant engineering and associated environmental work, and it didn't take long to find my confidence in what I was doing and take on responsibilities that, frankly, not many other people wanted to work in. I cared about what I did, I was confident, there was a closeness of the folks in that area, and people relied on me to stay in compliance (in other words, to keep running the machines and stay out of trouble) and keep my little area in good shape. So I'd say I was happy for nearly 30 years in that field. Had I wanted to get into the management area, I was offered opportunities, but I was a confirmed Geek, was more interested in the technical aspect, and was frankly happy to stay in my area.

When the utility industry started to get over run with lawyers, I was in position to take an early retirement (I prefer to refer to it as my "vow of poverty") and move into the family farm bidness. So I'm still happy, but not as rich as I deserve to be! I find time to do some consulting projects in the environmental fields and use my engineering expertise, as well as looking for new business opportunities in agriculture, when I'm not playing in the local concert bands for old fogeys. And perhaps combine power and ag in a new project I'm not allowed to announce yet!

All those years I spent in college (I actually was an instructor in a major university English Department, and a small town band director before I decided to become an engineer) I had no idea of what I was going to do. I grabbed any opportunity to try pursuits that would pay the bills and not be boring. I guess my biggest regret was the year my wife and I had an opportunity to work in Yellowstone, but we had already paid our tuition for summer and declined. Of course, we might have been eaten by the local wildlife!

I think the point I'm trying to make to the OP, is you don't have access to a crystal ball that will unfailingly tell you what is in your future. Frankly, you know better than any of us what you find interesting. I'm assuming that Daddy doesn't have a high paying slot for you to fill in his company, and you have to select your future. A college degree is just one line in your resume'. Having that degree will mean less than your attitude to the person reviewing it than your attitude and "other qualifications", in my experience. If you have no passion for some job, your chances are very poor. Pick a course, and head out!

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08/23/2016 9:22 AM

Years before the renewables (wind) revolution, I advocated for placing wind towers on the corners of farms (in a suitable pattern, not two adjacent corners), but my vision was not big enough. I was mainly thinking of farmers generating enough power to run the farms, not wheeling power to the grid....Doh!

This can/could take on many diverse forms, I have not the time to elaborate on this morning.

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Qualitatively speaking, if you still have physical and mental health, as you seem to, then you seem to be quite a rich man, after all, as far as I can see...

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