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Where Can I Get a 6061-T6 Shaft Frequency and Torque Tested?

11/06/2016 11:28 AM

This is a novel, patented, putter shaft which matches the green speed to the Stimpmeter reading by adjusting the internal weight along the shaft.

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11/06/2016 3:12 PM

Any competent test lab can do this.

Look up Delsen Test labs.

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11/06/2016 7:15 PM

On my PC now I have to ask, other than some marketing gibberish about "frequency matched" and "adjustable torque" will shave strokes off your score , why would these numbers matter?

They are meaningless to an average golfer and make no difference to even a pro on the putting green.

"Tuning" a putter according to the Stimpmeter reading by moving a weight inside a hollow tube is just a gimmick, and a patent is of no use.

Torque is a meaningless term in this context. The force applied is dependent on the human golf swing more than some miniscule inertial adjustment.

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11/07/2016 4:00 AM

Yes, but by moving the weight up and down you can increase the gullibility of the user and fine tune his performance by lightning his wallet.
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11/07/2016 7:51 AM

There's a sucker born every minute. And many of them play golf. which when spelled backwards is.........................................................

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11/07/2016 8:39 AM

It's called golf because all the other four-letter words are in use.

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11/07/2016 1:24 PM

I think that he is under the false logic that as with test or work equipment that has certification documentation behind it that certifies it's set up to above and beyond typical tolerances that somehow if his golf club has similar certification that will make him more accurate too.

Which if so I am sure that at least 10 of us regulars here with full engineering and technical backgrounds would be happy to get together and draw up some sort of documentation says that his golf club is in fact the most precise (to whatever tolerance he wants in whatever measurement system he wants it in) golf club ever made anywhere in the world and we will all attest to it anywhere at any time. (provided certain financial funding is in place first of course.)

I mean really, if you want pompous dimwit bragging rights on the golf course what's better than having certification documentation from no less than 10 life experienced engineers and technicians who came from all over the country and possibly world just to document your golf club worth?

I'm in for a $75K plus all travel and actual testing procedure related expenses fee! Anyone else?

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11/07/2016 12:15 PM

Where can you test it?

A golf course seems favourite.

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11/07/2016 1:48 PM

Next question: Is that even legal under PGA rules for the purposes of competition?

I have heard of putters being thrown out because there was some obscure rule on the books that forbade such items.

Matching the green speed to the Stimpmeter does require this shifting weight, since the Stimpmeter already is a measure of green speed. Did you mean this is to compensate the putter for Stimpmeter readings, so that one does not have to adjust his/her putting stroke accordingly?

My take on this: If a player cannot recognize fast or slow greens why is he or she out there trying to compete? Arnold Palmer never needed this.

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11/07/2016 2:46 PM

"My take on this: If a player cannot recognize fast or slow greens why is he or she out there trying to compete? Arnold Palmer never needed this."

Unfortunately many feel that raw cash and pseudo science/tech can compensate for raw lack of talent, skill, experience, drive, common sense and so forth.

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11/07/2016 3:01 PM

You won my vote!

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11/07/2016 10:08 PM

I think that if by some sort of severe mental breakdown I ever take up the game of golf I am going to make my clubs out of assorted broomsticks that screw onto various pieces of wood and just play with them until I am one of the best in the world just to show how ridiculous of game it really is.

Did you know that california all by itself uses on average around as much water just keeping golf courses green as all of fracking in the US consumes in a year?

Fracking uses around 80 - 140 billion gallons of water a year where as golf courses in california alone use ~110 billion gallons and around 300 billion more nation wide.

California water usage by the numbers.

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11/07/2016 10:40 PM

Golf courses don't cause earthquakes.

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11/08/2016 9:40 AM

Neither does fracking. Overloaded disposal wells drilled in geologically questionable areas are the earthquake problem starters.

My point was more towards the fact that californians who who are supposedly having huge water shortage on a per capita level have by far some of the highest and most wasteful water usage in the country and that just one hobby based industry in their state use as much water as one of the things they dislike the most.

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11/08/2016 10:10 AM

No argument there.

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11/08/2016 1:39 PM

I am not too sure about that. There be trolls on the links as well. These heavy hitters usually make the golf carts lean to the left, and are usually found with a large ice chest full of beer. All that weight moving around can be ponderous.

Besides that, we all know that golf courses can be found aplenty where fracking exists.

And California has a lot of golf, but no fracking or very little, and they have plenty of faults, not all geological, and quakes aplenty.

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11/07/2016 3:51 PM

Through a "visual" determination, the USGA ruled my shaft nonconforming per Appendix II,2b of the Rules of Golf: my putter shaft "does not exhibit equal bending and twisting properties."

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11/07/2016 4:41 PM

So that must be why you want further testing? Can you provide the engineers a fuller explanation of the rule, and how they determine this? Visually? Really?

So they clamp one end of the shaft, and then "tweak" it to see which modes of vibration are present?

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11/11/2016 11:32 AM

Yup. They attach a 12" bar at the tip and place a 2lb. weight on alternating sides to determine like twisting.

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11/07/2016 7:01 PM

Appendix II is fairly ambiguous, but how does frequency testing accomplish anything?

Visually, how does this shaft differ from a steel shaft?

A picture would help.

If the internal widget adds stiffness, that could be a problem.

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11/07/2016 8:14 PM

I don't think Jack needs it either.

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11/07/2016 8:18 PM

I think the putter is the most screwed with club....there are some duesy's out there...

Now here's a real beauty!!

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11/07/2016 9:52 PM

If you are really good, you won't even need a putter.

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11/08/2016 9:31 AM

You can try using the Schenectady Putter. "... Again like a lot improvement seeking golfers he came to the conclusion his putting sucked and that the reason clearly was the putter not the puttee. Thus in the summer of 1902 he left the putting green and headed for the workshop. Before long Mr. Knight had created a wooden headed, lead filled monster that embodied his ideas."

Walter Travis used the Schenectady Putter to win the U.S. Amateur in 1903 and then in 1904 he was the first American to win the British Amateur. After his victory, the R&A banned the putter until 1951.

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11/11/2016 4:44 AM

This is going to help me too.

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11/11/2016 8:58 AM

For your golf game, or does this have to do with cricket?

I always thought a cricket bat was a cricket bat, and the the only variable was the player.

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Need a good research on it..

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