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04/17/2017 10:14 AM

Yes, they do. Why just the other day my Chili's garden salad was arguing the merits of String Theory, saying it was just so much chopped liver. I finally got it to shut up by drowning it in balsamic vinaigrette.

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04/17/2017 10:24 AM

That's great before its conversation reach to Michio Kaku

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04/17/2017 10:35 AM

He and Steven Weinberg were over at the next table, shouting "Oh FFS! Eat it already!"

Next time I'll order soup.

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04/17/2017 10:50 AM

I bet Gordon Ramsey can do some little improvisation or may be a new list in the menu, perhaps? I bet there are new contenders around? I guess.

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04/17/2017 10:55 AM

Moral: Never order salad when String Theorists are present.

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04/17/2017 10:58 AM

That makes..Umm sense. But, what if these guys are wrong? Now, that's certainly would be funny as geberish talking in a sense. Theories can be a sound concept but it doesn't not mean the truth.

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04/17/2017 11:01 AM

Look at that board behind him: green. Chlorophyll.

Dead giveaway. Those plants aren't fooling anyone.

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04/17/2017 11:06 AM

Did they find already what they went looking for in the LHC? Some evidences of the theory perhaps?

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04/17/2017 11:08 AM

So now they found algae in the LHC? Maybe they left too many Higgs Bosons lying around. That is what happens when bozo the clown is left in charge over the weekend.

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04/17/2017 11:10 AM

Your funny as usual, buddy

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04/17/2017 11:12 AM

Yes. They found a baguette in the ventilation shaft.

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04/17/2017 11:15 AM

A what?

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04/17/2017 11:23 AM

Try to keep up, GM.

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04/17/2017 11:30 AM

Seems odd response above, but anyhow justified. I don't usually wander farther than that these days. It hurts my brain too much.

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04/17/2017 11:33 AM

Sorry, mate. That was big news back when. A dropped bit of baguette shutting down a multibillion-dollar physics experiment.

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04/17/2017 12:21 PM

May be that's actually the one they were looking for? "Who knows what the strings at the 8 or may be 11th dimensions are doing?" the other guy said. Sounds wonderful to me.

Its rather unusual, to think ventilation fans can cut through a whole body of intruders but just cant with a piece of bread carried and accidentally fallen by polly?

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04/17/2017 12:41 PM

Seems it was actually dropped on a substation outside which supplies the power to one of the sections' cooling machinery, shorting something out and causing the substation to cut power to the machinery. This in turn caused the superconducting-magnet temperature in that section to rise, automatically shutting down the collider. It was back online in three days.

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04/18/2017 10:11 PM

Reminds me of the Micro Turbo Entabulator!!!

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04/19/2017 2:37 AM

I don't know how the guy keeps from cracking up. I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.

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04/17/2017 11:07 AM

I hate finding strings or 'branes in my salad. Some soups look like a dense cluster of galaxies to me. Need new glasses.

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04/17/2017 11:14 AM

Which brane? uhmmm.. the p-brane? the two brane? the one brane? or the zero brane?

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04/17/2017 11:15 AM

You live somewhere on the p-brane, right?

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04/17/2017 11:19 AM

Shhh...it's just between us, alright?

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04/17/2017 11:16 AM

You're supposed to take the plastic-wrap off the thing before you eat it.

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04/17/2017 11:19 AM

But that is what gives gut his particular je ne sais quoi...without which he would be more useless that breasts on a boar!

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04/17/2017 11:06 AM

I dunno, that Minestrone might sing an opera!

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04/17/2017 11:10 AM

Well, so long as it's not The Barber of Seville sung in Urdu. We might all have to migrate over to that Burning Hair post.

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04/17/2017 11:08 AM

I'm betting that plants can learn better than some people I know!

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04/17/2017 11:16 AM

They learn much faster if you feed them lots of BS.

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04/17/2017 11:21 AM

They go into hyper learning when fed pure EC (you will have to decipher), my rules after Easter Sunday preclude such vernacular.

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04/17/2017 1:11 PM

Plants are masters at chemistry...they have to be, as they can't run away from a predator. Parts of a plant "communicate" with other parts when damaged by giving off chemical compounds which trigger a chemical response, and I can see how other plants in the vicinity would eavesdrop by detecting these same chemicals.

I can even see how this response can be fine-tuned to different predators which attack the plant. It's evolution and coevolution at work. Plants with this trait and the attacking insects' enemies evolved together. No intelligence here, just evolution.

No intelligence here, just evolution. (And no need to use the female pronoun for a tomato plant.)

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04/17/2017 1:21 PM

Now, that's a totally different insight, Rix. It does sounds like evolution don't need much thinking or intelligence, right?

That seems fun to debate between automatic response and carefully thought response to stimuli.

What's the boundaries before you can say its natural selection or a thought adaptation?

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04/17/2017 1:33 PM

By comparison of cranial activity, I think a taxonomy lesson (not taxidermy) is in order for someone here.

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04/17/2017 2:02 PM

New game show title, "Are you smarter than a potato", this fall on NBC.

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04/17/2017 2:25 PM

I can see so many contestants not getting past round one, on so many levels.

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04/17/2017 5:58 PM

The 'shut up and stay put until you have something useful to contribute' challenge ought to weed out the majority.

My Ex failed it every time. Claimed it was rigged then went off on a minutes long rants over things that had nothing to do with anything afterwards.

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04/17/2017 3:26 PM

You just can't grow culture into some people. It would take a steady diet of cultured yogurt for about 50 years to get past that one!

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The world would be better off if he were staked spread-eagle over a fire ant nest and left to rot.

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04/17/2017 3:00 PM

This leaves even Vegetarians behind. If we cross animals and now plants off the menu, we'll all have to start eating minerals.

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I agree, but she did ate that tomato at the last part of her talk.

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04/17/2017 3:28 PM

Did ye know, laddy, that sunflowers are part of the basic model for "artificial vision"?

On the other hand, there are certain cacti that Native American Shaman used for ceremonial trances that produce "artificial visions".

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Peyote!.......

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04/18/2017 6:55 AM

Thank God there is some intelligent humor, instead of the superficial brainless mundane stuff on TV so called sitcoms. I find great joy in reading these comments that help me start off my day in great spirits. May laughter outwit nitwits!

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04/18/2017 8:50 AM

Sounds good to me! May the forth be with you! The back, not so much.

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04/18/2017 12:58 PM

If immobility is pondering something, then I guess those plants think all the time.

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04/18/2017 1:32 PM

Is that a portrait of one of our commentators?

In the IoT plants can learn, because everything is connected.

Two guys standing around in a security area at the Pentagon...

One says to the other: "Hey is that guy over there a plant?"

Other one responds: "What are you talking about? I saw him move twice already."

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Dual facepalm.

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Beat dual face plant.

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04/19/2017 5:42 PM

Hmmm . . . Re: immobility . . .

... how apropos, to have Ein, pondering immobility...(!)

Having just been "into-it" (as HERE, several posts, including #201)

...I remain intrigued by his "take" (closing paragraph ~ aether/ether):

"...space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time.... But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it."

Hmmmm... this, in spite of the "expansion" (of which Hubble had "clued-him-in")

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04/18/2017 2:41 PM

49 posts, and nobody bothered to mention that scientists (led by M. Night Shyamalan) have already proven plants' uncanny ability to defend themselves in his popular documentary:

"plants are responsible, as they can release chemicals to defend themselves from threats"

(disclaimer: and, anybody who believes the ABOVE, will likely ALSO believe ANY fake news story out there...)

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I like your new avatar, GM.

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04/19/2017 5:00 AM

It's not me...It's the pebble I throw in the sea, hoping some will drift ashore.

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04/19/2017 2:28 PM

Better use Lava

next time. It is made from Pumice.

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