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This Week's Episode of Identify the Plant

05/19/2017 1:49 PM

What kind of plant do you suppose this is. Sorry, no ruler, so you have to guess at the scale, but the entire plant is not more than three feet tall (yet). It was not there at all last winter, so it is first year growth, if perennial.

There are some containers of rain water in the background, collected for "covert" "nuclear energy" experiments I am running out in the country.

And don't fidget me about my ladder storage, I was running out of room in the small work shed.

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05/19/2017 1:58 PM

Is that a triffid?

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05/19/2017 2:17 PM

I hope not, as it is already too near the gate that is right beside the door to my work shed, where as like as not, I will be found (by wifey) with my nose buried deep in a prototype board, an Arduino sketch, looming over my lathe, cutting clear PVC, running wires, tubing, and goggledygook, and smoking while leaning over my lawn mower fuel bucket with gas cans in it....oh and I left out running the drill press, chop saw, and hand drill, and the soldering iron (all on a high gauge number 100' extension cord because I am too cheap to hire an electrician to come hook me up with a 30A breaker.

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05/19/2017 2:20 PM

No. Commanche Peak is down by Leon's favorite town of Glen Rose, TX. Dinosaur Valley State Park is there on the Paluxy River, where clearly a man's fossilized footprint can be seen impressed over a large dinosaur footprint.

The man was a Texan, because clearly the dinosaur was running away from him!

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05/19/2017 2:33 PM

I camped overnight at that park and saw the dino footprints. Stood in one of them. Spend the next day jet-skiing in Squaw Creek Reservoir.

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05/19/2017 2:43 PM

Nice. My deceased brother-in-law really, really loved going down that way (he had family back up in the sticks there).

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05/19/2017 3:12 PM

One of my favorite cartoons... Thanks, Gary Larson!

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05/19/2017 2:13 PM

a better picture of the leaf would help....

so I can only guess, Asclepias Purpurascens.

Also known as Milkweed.

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05/19/2017 2:25 PM

I need to do a scratch and schniff test - I think the milkweed you are familiar with does emit a pungent odor upon injury.

It also emits a latex. Have not checked, just was told by wifey to ID this intruder before pulling out the big iron on him.

At first, I thought it was volunteer tobacco, but I have never seen that in Texas. I shudder to think if it was a baby hemlock tree and I dried the leaves and stuffed that in my pipe and lit up! Not that there are hemlock trees here, or anything else to do with Aristotle. Maybe Catalpa? We did have one we had to cut down, but not noticed any of the long seed pods in a while, and no volunteers near the stump.

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05/19/2017 2:28 PM

If it's milkweed don't pull it out. Monarch caterpillars feed on them.

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05/20/2017 6:42 AM

My first thought was some kind of tobacco - but I can't resolve the picture very well (maybe my eyesight) and I'm not familiar with US flora.

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05/19/2017 2:48 PM

Yeah looks like Milkweed, wait for it to flower for proper ID....

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05/19/2017 3:00 PM

Or, pull a leaf off... and see if it bleeds 'milk'

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05/19/2017 3:31 PM

Looks like Pokeweed to me.

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If it is pokeweed, later on the stem should darken to red/purple and eventually it will make lots of poke berrries.

You can make poke salad out of Pokeweed, but it is important to take all the safety precautions to avoid poisoning yourself.

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05/19/2017 3:41 PM

There are parts of the Milkweed that are also edible,... but I can't remember which parts.

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05/19/2017 3:54 PM

I think I have seen pokeweed around here before, but I don't know how to prepare it if it was here. I think you have to boil the leaves in vinegar?? to remove the alkaloids.

As far as milkweed that I have seen in West Texas, it seldom reaches more than 16-18" height before it pods out. The edible part is in the wind, or it is above the top leaf tip, and below the last root.

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05/19/2017 4:14 PM

Poke weed is pretty distinctive for quickly growing large leaves and robust stalk in shade. It will take off in areas that other stuff barely survives.

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If you have young ones around or naive livestock around, do not suffer this plant to live, The berries look tempting. All parts of the plant are toxic and probably mutagenic. The juice from the berries can be absorbed through the skin with ill effects.

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People do consume the leaves and stalks. Younger is better. It is imperative that no berries or roots are collected with leaves and stalks (better to harvest before and berries are present as toxins in stalk and leaves build up over time). The stalks and leaves should be boiled in water drained and filled with fresh water to boil again, repeated several times.

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Supposedly pares well with hemlock wine, bear liver, amateur fugu fillets, and salmonella stuffed amanita mushroom caps.

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05/19/2017 4:32 PM

Sounds like a splendid final meal, if one could get past the taste of it!

I will stick with removing this offending weed, or catalpa tree volunteer before long.

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05/19/2017 5:35 PM

Did you do a taste test it yet? Just eat one leaf, let us know what it tastes like, and if there are any issues after ingestion. That should surely help us narrow it down.

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05/21/2017 9:13 PM

I have polk in my yard and eat it often. It tastes like spinach. Never gave me any problems. Wouldn't eat it raw, tho.

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05/22/2017 9:11 AM

I am brave, but not that cavalier about my health. I ain't planning on smoking any of it either.

Big events here this week with wifey's surgery looming tomorrow. If I am back at work any time this week, I will attempt to have a better pic taken at midday, or perhaps one in more contrasty lighting with the plant being the brighter than the background items.

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05/22/2017 9:15 PM

Hope everything goes smoothly and well in her surgery. May she have a speedy recovery.

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I feel the same....

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05/23/2017 8:49 AM

Me too. Take care.

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05/23/2017 6:14 PM

I hope your wife is ok also, tomorrow, 5/24/2017, I get the scans on the tumor on my thyroid. I pray for your wife as I pray for myself......

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Best of luck.

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Thank you, truth.

Just got home from the hospital. Who would have thought something as innocuous sounding as "thyroid ultrasound" would be so damn uncomfortable. 40 minutes laying on back with head tilted as far back as possible with a plastic probe pressed into different parts of my neck and throat. I was not expecting it to suck so bad, never looked like a big deal when I was in there for my kids fetal ultrasounds.

Nuclear scan was a little better, same position, took an hour, but nothing was pressing into my throat.

They gave me a good chuckle afterwards, when they asked me if I planned on traveling this weekend via an airplane. Apparently the radioactive isotope they injected me with, can set off some airport scanners for the next 3 days.

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05/25/2017 2:49 AM

Was it Iodine? Do you know the isotope?

Curious that they would use ultrasound in conjunction with radioisotopes.

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For thyroid scans, it's usually Tc-99m or I-131. I did a lot of work on a CT isotope emission scanner during my early working life.

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I-131? Thought that was usually used for treatment (ablation) as the decay is sufficiently energetic to kill appreciable amounts of thyroid cells.

I think 1-123 is usually used in imaging.

The reason I was asking about the isotope is because the ultrasound in conjunction with radio iodine didn't sound right as imaging. I know they sometimes want to image the thyroid to see where effects are noticeable when treating and so was thing it was possibly related....but what a mistake if the patient thought they were imaging when it was actually treatment. Anyway, that doesn't appear to be the case.

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It was Tc-99m, I confirmed on follow my health.com. The radioisotope was injected after the ultrasound procedure, so I was not emitting any gamma radiation during ultrasound. Both scans were purely diagnostic.

They said it should all be out of my system by tomorrow. I tried real hard to nuke hot dogs for my kids yesterday with my bare hands, it didn't work.

You are right though, if it is what he thinks it is, (Graves), it's benign and auto-immune and he said he would kill my thyroid with radioiodine (I-131, I believe).

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Could've been my memory playing up. Pretty sure we scanned some I-131 - loaded objects, but they may've been perspex phantoms (during testing) rather than patients.

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Your memory is probably correct. There are probably other I-131 medical imaging uses of which I am unaware, and it may have been used more widely in the past.

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2 separate scans. Ultrasound was first, then upstairs for the nuclear scan. Web MD has a pretty accurate description here.

I am not sure exactly the isotope, I think it was Tc-99m, it was on the order which they kept, I know it was pretty low in radioactivity though.

I did read up on this on Web MD before hand because the nuclear scan kind of worried me, turned out it was no big deal and the ultrasound was the uncomfortable one.

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I fully sympathize on the neck ultrasound scan. I had a "mini-stroke" (TIA) a few years back, and of all the scans and whatever the only painful one was an ultrasound scan to check the condition of my carotid arteries. Unfortunately, the only person available to start it was very inexperienced, and it took ages and hurt like hell. When his senior came to check, she got a result in a few seconds, with no discomfort at all.

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05/24/2017 3:14 PM

How is your wife doing?

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Today is my first day back at work. I spent all week last week attending to her after dismissal from hospital. We are still working on after effects of all the antibiotics she had to take. Two words: Diflucan, probiotics.

I don't think the one dose of Diflucan was sufficient, and now we are stuck using over the counter remedies for yeast infection. Probiotic (active culture foods) appear to be at least as effective as many other medications.

To be honest, after having her in hospital for a full week, I was blanched of energy, and needed to recuperate as well. I did wait upon her hand and foot, and pretended to be the skullery maid, and house wench for the entire time.

A big thank you to all who uttered prayers for my wife (and me). It does appear that God is especially fond of her, since her recovery went as well as could be expected. I had her up and walking "a lap" around the nurse's station within 2.5 hours of surgical endpoint. The surgery took a lot less time than expected, and the incisions were quite small indeed.

JPool: I hope all is well with you at this time. Best wishes!

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05/23/2017 8:41 AM

I once saw a single huge pokeweed growing on a small pile of oyster shells just barely above normal high tide in a Florida tidal estuary. Nothing else was growing on the oyster shells; it survived for a month or two until being blasted by several above normal high tides and serious wind.

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05/19/2017 11:27 PM

The leaf shape and leaf structure look like a Southern Magnolia, but your plant grew way too fast to be a SM seedling. I've had a number of Southern Magnolia seedlings come up (children of a tree I planted 45 or more years ago), and they take a year to reach six inches...(High)

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05/20/2017 8:46 AM

Hard to be sure, but it kind of like a holly tree (they come in both tree and bush).

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05/20/2017 6:37 PM

I was wondering about the ladder,,if your not going to use it,,can I borrow it ?

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05/22/2017 9:13 AM

Yes, you can borrow, if you bring it back by next pruning season, because it is just catching dust hanging on the back fence, at least that is in the shade. I can't guarantee the ladder to be safe above my weight.

Kind of a long commute just for a ladder, though, and I surprised no one mentioned my converted cat litter containers that are storing rain water (for LENR experiments).

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05/23/2017 9:56 PM

As for the LENR experiments, in the jurisdiction where you live is there a city code governing such ?

or is a not on the books thing and they best leave it up to the person to judge safety protocol's ?

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I doubt city code would typically be the overriding most restrictive requirement. As nuclear materials and reactions are not generally viewed as straight forward enough for lay analysis and governance, if any mention is made of "nuclear' in city code, it probably defers to NRC definitions. ( I could be wrong, and would like to see examples, if, I am)

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As for NRC regulations, as long as any concentrated natural or synthetic sources are used according to their explicit official use as described at transfer/purchase, then whatever exemption or licensing applies will still apply. As far as novel nuclear reactions, I don't know that the NRC , is a believer in LENS. I'm no lawyer, but I suspect until such time as a significant continuous or large repeatable neutron Flux is being generated, or other radiation that poses a significant hazard, regulation for processes involving only nonregulated material and regulated material used only as described by applicable exemption or license, then the NRC won't raise an eyebrow.

Start producing large fluxes or high activity materials in appreciable amounts and things will likely change rapidly.

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We don't do it in the city, but at a remote facility, undisclosed location, Area 99 sort of thing. The only personnel allowed to see it do not understand how to make it work yet, so there is no immediate danger....LOL.

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06/05/2017 12:29 PM

This sort of sounds like a place where I once delivered a load of undisclosed material to a site just north of Las Vegas, NV. In that instance I drove a truck while escorted across the country by two white vans filled with m-16 toting military guards, one leading, one following. I was directed to drive upon a roadway that was camouflaged in such a way that I thought I was driving over rocks, sagebrush and sand. I arrived at an " agricultural station ", similar to the one in the movie, " Andromeda Strain " , there I was met by a 7'2" African American Sgt. He asked for the keys to the truck and the accompanying paperwork, ( initially I was reluctant to hand him the keys and paperwork as per company policy where the driver was required to be present at off loading of any delivery) as the Sgt reached for his hip mounted 45 caliber pistol, I hurriedly handed him the keys and paperwork. My co-driver and I were directed to a tan colored windowless building to await his return.

The interesting thing about the inside of the building was the single large one way glass partition, the solitary military gray steel desk with two chairs facing each other, the cola and candy vending machines and the open lavatory, there were no other furnishings or decorations of any kind.

I never saw any other personel at the site, with the exception of the Sgt. , all orders and commands were given over loudspeaker.

When the truck was returned several hours later, I was then escorted off, " base " by 3 small 2 person helicopters ( similar to the one in the image)

Is your, " area 99", like this ?

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06/05/2017 1:25 PM

No, it has an even lower profile. LOL

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05/21/2017 6:52 PM

It could be a rubber tree.... they are often used as indoor potted ornamentals, but become a BIG tree in the ground!

take a leaf to your local nursery.

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05/21/2017 7:12 PM

The more I look at it, the more it looks like a milkweed.

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05/21/2017 9:22 PM

It isn't milkweed. Milkweed leaves are arranged opposite on the stem, not alternating. It is pokeweed.

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05/22/2017 5:34 AM

You are right about the leaves on a milk weed and I am unfamiliar with the poke weed, but pics I have seen online show purple stems. Are there some with green or purple?

It almost looks like a tobacco plant. We need a better picture of it.

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05/22/2017 8:33 AM

The stems of poke start out out green and turn purple as it gets older.

It stays green for quite awhile.

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05/22/2017 10:14 AM

Sort of looks like okra, but you would have buds by now and you are not likely to have a volunteer unless someone nearby was growing it through a lifecycle.

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05/22/2017 10:59 AM

While I found the write-up in Wikipedia to be interesting, and I was surprised to learn that in some parts of the world, the leaves are used as cooked greens, this is clearly not okra, but if it fools me, I will let you know when the first pods are in my kitchen being rolled on corn meal. Love me some fried okra, along with whatever kind of meat is available in the house, including SPAM.

I like to use okra along with other vegetables in soup making, and no matter how it comes out, the correct term for it is gumbo (even if it bears no resemblance to New Orleans gumbo).

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