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Coffee Lake and Ryzen. The CPU Market Heats Up

10/11/2017 7:34 AM

Last week Intel dropped their new CPU series 'Coffee Lake' in response to high performing multi core AMD Ryzen CPU's. AMD had been struggling in the marketplace of late, but the Ryzen platform offered solid clock speed single core performance and incredible multi core performance.

Intel's rush to compete and dominate the CPU market has left some consumers salty. The new chips are not backwards compatible with Z270 orZ170 chipsets, so a new motherboard is required. Additionally, there's a huge shortage of these processors at launch, selling out in minutes on Amazon and Newegg. Word is this shortage will mean trouble for users trying to upgrade until sometime in December.

I love to build my own desktops and was planning to use one of Intels new processors, the 8700k for my new build. Sadly they sold out so fast I was forced to have a company piece the until together for me. To my surprise this actually ended up being more affordable vs putting it together myself.

Anyone build a Ryzen system in the last few months or order a Coffee Lake CPU?

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Re: Coffee Lake and Ryzen. The CPU Market Heats Up

10/11/2017 7:58 AM

If stock value had anything to do with performance.

Looking at AMD stock history, with the exception of the last 18 months, AMD has always been struggling.

It just seems like AMD is just hanging in there. The market place needs AMD. And in a way, so does Intel. It motivates Intel. just hope neither gets sloppy on the 'rush to market' strategy.

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10/11/2017 8:15 AM

As a consumer I'm loving it. AMD is forcing Intel into more aggressive price points to be competitive. Sadly stock shortages are surging the prices for Coffee Lake at the moment.

I've used AMD in the past and never had any issues. It's just impossible to touch intels single core performance.

I'm really excited for my first my first M.2 SSD

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Up to 3200 MBps

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Up to 1500 MBps

Puts my trusty Samsung EVO SATA connected SSD to shame.

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10/11/2017 10:17 AM

Too bad, I can't understand this version of English.

What does "salty" mean? There is a Lake of Coffee?

What is a M.2 SSD?

I have not noticed a shortage of stocks for sale in the market.

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10/11/2017 10:26 AM

very valuable input as expected James.

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10/11/2017 12:46 PM

I think I see your tongue in cheek. I really am not a computer geek type, and I would like to learn a bit more, but I need an interpreter.

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10/11/2017 10:59 AM

Why is everybody dropping everything all of a sudden?? Is it an epidemic?

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10/11/2017 10:51 AM

How big of an M.2 did you get? I have read the stats and M.2 tech. is impressive. The new motherboard I am looking at does have an M.2 slot. I am going to have to check it out.

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10/11/2017 11:25 AM

So be sure to look at read / write speeds. the samsung I got is one of the top performers. I went with 500gb. It will serve as my boot / program drive.

Full Specs:

Thermaltake Suppressor F31 Quiet - Case

850 Watt - EVGA SuperNOVA 850 - 80 PLUS Bronze- PSU

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16 GB [8 GB X2] DDR4-3000 Memory Module - HyperX Fury

Corsair Hydro Series H115i 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler

500 GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 PCIe NVME SSD

I'm guessing you do some editing or CAD ? That threadripper is a monster. That threadripiper, M.2 Drive, and some nice ram and you'll be good for 5+ more years.

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10/11/2017 12:47 PM

I bet that might work for a gaming computer?

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10/11/2017 2:23 PM

I do dabble with both. Occasional gaming. I also fold@home and run seti@home. (not at the same time)

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10/11/2017 8:13 AM

I am considering building a new Ryzen "Thread ripper" machine. You mentioned you bought yours pre-manufactured at less cost then building it yourself. I will still build mine, I already have the video card (1060 GTX), hard drives, blue ray drive, and power supply. I just need the cpu, mother board, and ram.

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10/11/2017 8:19 AM

I ended up selling my old i7 3960x system before buying this one. I kept my graphics card (gtx 1080) and put an gtx780 in for the sale. This machine should be good for a few years once I drop the 1080gtx in.

have to love the threadripper. Sadly, just a bit out of my price point. But talk about a processor that should be good for years...which one were you looking at?

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10/11/2017 8:42 AM

I am looking at the bad boy, the 1950X, but will probably settle on the 1920X. Even the 1900X is a huge leap from my Phenom II 965.

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10/11/2017 2:32 PM

Am I out of my mind thinking I might get a decently fast (heavy on the graphics processing speed) gaming computer for less than $1000?

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10/11/2017 3:01 PM

That depends. You can definitely get by for 1000. Graphics cards are very expensive and maybe the most important next to CPU.

My mentality is to spend up front on a good power supply, motherboard and processor. everything else can be upgraded as the parts go on sale.

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10/11/2017 3:06 PM

I hear you, but I have never built a system, and it might be expecting a lot for someone like me that barely dabbles in electronics, programming, and the like.

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10/11/2017 7:54 PM

You mean my 2004 Toshiba Satellite laptop with the De-Celeron M processor running XP is no longer state-of-the-art?

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10/11/2017 8:11 PM

Is your screen still working or does it have ever increasing vertical bars

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10/12/2017 8:56 AM

Nah, boyo, mine has the cross-bars. Seems Capt. Farrell had it in for me.

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10/13/2017 7:03 PM

So far, so good. I'm just waiting for SOMETHING to break. The left "mouse" button on the touch pad is a bit flaky, but I end up using a regular optical mouse most of the time anyways. Other than that and a noisy fan, this thing is like the Energizer bunny. For basic web browsing and light duty Word and Excel work, it's just fine.

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