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An Interesting (Surprising) Perspective on Coal

10/20/2017 4:55 PM

Don't blame the messenger for the message. To contact the author of this article, email david.wagman@ieeeglobalspec.com

The folly of bringing employment back to the coal belt is still just coal smoke and mirrors.

Coal Can Still Lose Despite Pro-Coal Policies

Employment there is still a pipe dream for these displaced miners, who will soon lose what medical coverage they may have had.

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10/20/2017 8:12 PM

Blocked by treehuggers....

http://www.hcn.org/articles/latest-more-pushback-against-coal-export-terminals

http://www.hcn.org/issues/43.12/the-global-west/when-the-locals-dont-want-your-coal-sell-it-overseas

..."The average starting salary for a coal mine worker is $60,000. "You can come right out of high school and make $70,000 a year," said Missy Perdue, 22, a stay-at-home mother whose husband, Jeff Perdue, Jr., 22, is a miner.Apr 7, 2010"...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Mine/west-virginia-coal-miners-allure-dangerous-profession/story?id=10305839

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10/21/2017 3:00 PM

Not sure how these discussion threads are set up. I seem to have posted a reply on some other thread. So, I'll just copy & paste the reply into this one. I Hope that's acceptable.

What I don't understand, is why anyone would want to supply all of the energy needs with a 100% of anything. If 20% was coal, 20% natural gas, 20% oil, 20% nuke, 20% burning trash, the whole load could be supplied without 100% dependence on any one thing. The "competition" between the different suppliers for a share beyond any supply/demand limits can be avoided, resulting in a naturally achieved "equilibrium" of whatever percentage it comes out to be. Continuing to make coal clean will ensure that it can supply at least a partial load, even if it does not "win" the competition. Who says that anyone "winning" means that somebody else loses? As long as everybody can participate in the general market to their best ability, then everybody wins. Artificial competition here will not do anyone any good. Can coal still lose? Everybody can lose here. The problem shouldn't be framed in this way. Let's get it right.

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10/23/2017 11:50 AM

The issue of use of coal is probably more important than the question of the production of coal and hasn't really entered into much of the discussion.

Right now it is very difficult to find metallurgical coal and coke. This is important because it relates directly to prosperity. The issue is value-added activities.

If you dig a pound of coal and use it to heat a house, it's value is done and gone. If you dig a pound of coal and use it to make a pound of steel, you start a value added chain of activity that ends up in useable products, a chain of employment and a degree of prosperity. Additionally, it can be done in an environmentally responsible manner.

The folly of bringing back coal belt employment is that we are NOT also bringing back the other elements of the value added stream to make it worthwhile.

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10/23/2017 11:58 AM

Definitely something to think about.

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