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Magnets and Expanding Universe

11/17/2017 5:29 AM

I have always been fascinated by magnets,and the forces they are capable of.I have a few around all the time,and I was playing with a couple;a small one,and a larger one.

When placed in opposing polarities,of course they repelled,but only at a certain distance.When held closer,they attracted each other;I assume the attraction to the metal was greater than the magnetic field opposing them.

The further away they were from each other the less they attracted, up to the limit of measurable force with my crude instruments( a magnet on a string pendulum.)

Try it for yourself.

I used a 100 mm circular diameter magnet and a 10 mm circular magnet.

Could gravity work in a similar way..that is on small scales("small" is a relative term here) matter attracts,but on a larger scale,it repels?

Could a similar force help explain the galactic expansion?

Could gravity have a dual personality?

Just thinking.

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11/17/2017 6:10 AM

To my knowledge there is no evidence that this is the case....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation

Although it may exhibit certain similar characteristics at times....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist

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11/17/2017 7:23 AM

"When placed in opposing polarities, of course they repelled, but only at a certain distance. When held closer, they attracted each other; I assume the attraction to the metal was greater than the magnetic field opposing them."

On the contrary, the closer they are the stronger the repulsive force. If you could restrain them so that they cannot deviate from being at 1800 to each other, you will not find any attractive force. I would suggest that the larger magnet is trying to flip the smaller one round so as to line up with the opposite pole.

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11/17/2017 9:52 AM

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11/18/2017 7:25 AM

Thanks! That,as they say,is that.I am not surprised that someone else has discovered this same effect.The explanation given is more detailed than mine,but makes sense on a more technical nature.

Thanks again,TINAC!

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11/18/2017 8:11 AM

Can't see what he's doing let alone what he's saying. Too poorly presented. Try again - please.

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11/19/2017 5:30 AM

No worries, your protest is understandable. It can be hard to hear someone who is contradicting something for which you have already received accolades.

I understand the quality of the video has a lot to be desired, but the audio is easy to understand.

If you want to experience the phenomena for yourself, get a large, rather thin neodymium magnet and a smaller neodymium magnet and aligned so as to repel, push the smaller magnet into the center of the large magnet.

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11/20/2017 8:59 AM

For the record, I did not vote you off-topic.

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11/20/2017 4:31 PM

Fair enough. I was just having a bit of fun in the tone of that response. The effect however is not a joke.

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11/20/2017 4:47 PM

so it either is or it ain't lined up when it works or does not work. I remember the narrator saying that a nudge is enough to send the smaller magnet flying.

Could this be used for space docking maneuvers? I suspect they already have a pretty high tech alignment ring for this.

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11/17/2017 8:01 AM

I'd keep an open mind since science is maybe not settled yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5MxX-rx_M0

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11/17/2017 8:05 AM

All I can say is try it for yourself,then get back with me on your results.

My theory is that the stronger of the two magnets overcame the weaker one.

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11/17/2017 9:56 AM

I have noticed the same thing. A stronger magnet will "remagnetize" a weaker magnet at close range, so opposing force can become a weak attractive force, for the reasons you stated.

I'm thinking that this analogy won't work. Gravity fields and magnetic fields behave differently. Gravity is omnidirectional and drops off as the square of distance. Magnetism has a directionality and drops of as the cube of distance.

There is a theory similar to what you describe. In Andrew Thomas's book "Hidden in Plain Sight 2", he describes a theory that matter is not attracted to a mass center but to the Schwarzchild boundary.

Most masses are small enough that the Schwarzschild radius is relatively small and the result would be essentially indistinguishable from attraction to the mass center. The exception is the entire universe, which has a Schwarzschild radius of about 13 billion light-years, and if matter were attracted to this boundary, it would account for the cosmic expansion. (This theory is not widely accepted.)

https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Plain-Sight-equation-universe-ebook/dp/B00DFL353K

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11/17/2017 2:26 PM

Mind blowing.

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Why I come here!

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11/18/2017 1:34 PM

"Could gravity work in a similar way..that is on small scales("small" is a relative term here) matter attracts,but on a larger scale,it repels?"

That has been suggested here before.

The strong nuclear force overcomes proton repulsion when protons get very close. But it is stronger at farther distances within its range. "within its short range (about 10−15 metre, roughly the diameter of a proton or a neutron), the strong force appears to become stronger with distance, unlike the other forces. "The residual strong force left after protons are bound, "is powerfully attractive between nucleons at distances of about 1 femtometre (fm, or 1.0 × 10−15 metres), but it rapidly decreases to insignificance at distances beyond about 2.5 fm."

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11/18/2017 11:14 PM

Magnets are like cats. You can't figure them out and you have no control over them.

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11/20/2017 8:50 AM

Have you ever considered asking them nicely?

Nah, never mind, they are still cats and magnets. Now cats with magnets is real laugh riot, unfortunately I could not find a single YouTube video of that taking place.

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11/20/2017 8:53 AM

Let's try this over again. Could you make a short video with your cell phone, and present it here?

Please label the S and N poles of magnets as convenient to the demonstration.

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