Any photos of this phenomenon?

If pictures are not available, a detailed description would be helpful. Traits such as shapes, colors, motions, duration, location, time of occurance (before, after, or during the quake), brightness and so on would be important clues to what the lights are.

Also, who saw these lights? What condition were they in? What are their ages? Educational level?

What was going on in the vicinity of the lights, besides the earthquake? Where any boats or airplanes in the area?

If you get this information, you might be able to find the answer yourself.

Re your, Hendrik's and a few other's responses: I'm out of my field here, but aren't quartz crystals pizeoelectric, etc? Don't quartz crystals emit light under pressure?

This may well explain the lights, from vast veins or isolated quartz (or possibly other minerals) outcroppings, subjected to tremendous sudden pressure. Jorrie, comments?

There was a medium big quake down Cape Town (SA) way some 28 years ago . I was approaching the mountain range. Flashes of light appeared all over the face of the mountain slope. My impression was that it were different rocks or faults that rubbed against each other and produced flint like sparks.

I suppose the same could happen under the sea.

Most likely to have been quartz crystals and the piezo effect. this has often been obsereved when earth movemets have involved quartz between hard rocks. The pressure can generate very high distarges. So producing the flashes of light.

"quartz between hard rocks. The pressure can generate very high discharges. So producing the flashes of light."

I never came close to the rock. Similar looking rock close by definitely had quarts layers.

Will this discharges / flashes show under water as well?

Any possibility that either there was a magma breakthrough on the crust (which should, of course, make a lot of steam) or phosphorescence from aquatic life reacting to the earthquake? What was the duration of the strange lights?

Definitely no magma involved. Aquatic life - very unlikely.

The flashes of light were visible while the quake lasted.

SA is quite stable. cannot remember the magnitude but some houses were damaged.

We had no idea that it was a quake.

Hmmmm.

I'll guess (victim of male answer syndrome). Bioluminescence from the disturbance from the quake.

Nice answer. This link mentions 'milky sea', though green wakes behind ships rings a bell. Maybe a swarm of fire-flys or something could explain light in the sky.

My guess is that it's some form of triboluminescence from rocks being split apart. (If I was a chemical bond shorn apart, I'd yelp too!) Vermin and others mentioned seeing 'flashes of light,' rather than the continuous glow seen with bioluminescent infusoria.

You can see TL in the comfort of your own home, btw: Grab a pack of Wint-O-Green Lifesavers, shut yourself in your bathroom and let your eyes dark-adapt (kind of hard to do in your case with all that glowing brimstone and those flames licking about ). Then crunch down on one and watch the fireworks! This link shows what happens when you smash one with a hammer. Same thing happens with quartz and other minerals, so I'd be more surprised if we didn't see something during an earthquake.

Yes Europium, the explanation I read in the newspaper mention the triboluminescence phenomenon but I can not beleave the ligth could pass at least 100 meters of water and illuminate the sky in such intensity as I see, somebody makes a video shown in TV.

CIRO

In your original post you mentioned it lighting the sea, but you said nothing about it lighting up the sky. How was the sky illuminated? Was it from light reflected from clouds, or did the light appear to originate in the sky, perhaps looking like some kind of discharge higher up, like an aurora? There have been reports of high-altitude, aurora-like phenomena associated with earthquakes, which suggests to me that tremendous electric fields are involved. If this is true, it becomes especially puzzling when the earthquake occurs underwater - particularly under seawater which is highly conductive (and therefore would tend to effectively 'short-out' an electric field). Can you describe in some detail what you saw, and something about the conditions at the time, ie, clear sky, overcast, deep nighttime darkness, etc? Did the light have a particular color. If so, did the color change? Was the color saturated, ie, greenish or reddish? Did the glow appear to move around. Did it have shape, like streamers or curtains. Did you hear anything unusual beyond the rumbling of an earthquake, something akin to crackling or hissing sounds? Did you smell ozone?

Sorry to pelt you with all these questions, but you opened this investigation after all.

Humm, as far as I was aware, a geological process have nothing to do with electric field discharge in the upper atmosphere to generate and Aurora!! Lights, in the sea are most likely, as previously mentioned, a defensive reaction from bioluminescent critters that are just shit scared of the massive shockwaves moving thru' the water.

Either way, very interesting times..

Matty

Lightning would be one geologic and atmospheric (they are not independant if the lightning strikes the ground) process associated with the charges developed on the earth relative to those developed in the particles in the higher atmosphere.

I see the ligth from a distance of about 3000 meters from the coast, i see the reflection on the clouds, in this season the sky is completly cover by clouds, the ligths appears during the quake, there was not any report of electrical short circuit or explotion of a transformer, hundreds of persons watch the phenomenon some in coast see the ligth over the ocean by its refection in the clouds. The quake occurs at 6:40 pm it was already dark because now we are in the winter time, the color was greenish like flashes, do not appear moving around, you can see the shape in the video, the quake epicenter was about 170 km south-west from Lima, i did not hear any other sound different from the quake in fact it was not so noisy, no smell ozone, no crashing, no hissing sounds.

If the origing of ligth was in the bottom of the sea how can it pass though about 80 or more meters of water with enought intensity to reach the clouds and be reflected in such level.

I receive an e-mail that says that the responsable of this phenomenon is big US antenae that irradiate hundred of KW to the sky to make changes in the climate, it is a kind of a secret electronic missile. science fiction?

Ciro

I receive an e-mail that says that the responsible of this phenomenon is big US antenna that irradiate hundreds of kW into the sky to make changes in the climate, it is a kind of a secret electronic missile. science fiction?

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You're probably thinking of HAARP.

Climate change? Science fiction.

Consider the power received by Earth during a major solar storm: about 5 terawatts (5e12 watts), more or less. A storm of this scale warps the geomagnetic field (all of it), produces spectacular aurorae, heats the ionosphere causing it to expand and increase the drag on low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellites, disrupts communications and GPS transmissions, disrupts power distribution grids, and a whole host of other nasty things. But the effects persist for only a few hours or days. Yet it takes about 5 terawatts dumped into the atmosphere/ionosphere/magnetosphere for several hours to pull it off. Worse yet, the Sun has been doing stuff like this to us for Earth's entire 4.5 billion-year history. Somehow a secret few-hundred-kW transmitter doesn't worry me much. Heck, they could crank it up to megawatts and I still wouldn't be concerned.

If the US wants to modify Earth's climate, for better or for worse, we're gonna have to do better than that. A lot better than that. Like maybe dump the entire US' generating capacity into the ionosphere (or whatever) on a continuing 24/7/365 basis? (We didn't need all those coal reserves anyway...) A couple hundred kW a threat? A couple hundred kW vs five terawatts? Five terawatts to produce only temporary effects? I think maybe we have a ways to go. It'll be a few years yet before we're in a position to compete directly with the Sun.

Science fiction? Science fiction.

the entire sky lit up, coming from the direction of the ocean. I was about 3 miles inland. The city lights all went dark, then the sky lit up. The night was overcast. I live 240 kms north of the epicenter in Lima. This weekend i was closer to the epicenter in a very rural setting, and the people described the same thing. So the luminescence was seen along the entire area that suffered from the earthquake. Still wondering what it was.

Ciro,

I was able to find the following video made during the quake:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=785_1187330230&p=1

40 seconds into the clip it shows a very bright blue flash, in the distance during the earthquake in peru. Is this representative of what you saw?

Sam H.

Ciro says the flash occurred at sea and lit up the sea and the sky. Lima is on the Pacific coast and so did this flash occur west of the city, at sea? If some other direction (in the video you can't see the ocean and you can't tell which direction the camera is facing), the flash could have been produced by a substation transformer exploding. The shaking due to a strong earthquake could easily lead to the destruction of such equipment.

We had high winds and very heavy rains that caused a substation transformer north of here to explode. The effect was very similar - blue flash which lit the sky - except that in our case we heard a deep, rolling 'boom' from the explosion. Did Ciro hear anything possibly over and above the rumbling of the earthquake? Hello, Ciro?

seemed kind of intense and localized for a natural geologic process related to an earthquake.

From the video I could not say whether the light was localized or not. It occurred in one part of the sky, yes, but the light could have originated all along the affected part of the fault. An aerial view would be much more revealing, and would show the extent of the source. The video does not show this. If the fault were oriented (say) radially away from the observer, the light could have extended for tens or hundreds of kilometers along the fault and yet have appeared to the observer to be localized. Satellite imagery may come to our aid here. I'll see if I locate it...

There are a few oddly placed faults in the American mid-west. Some of these faults have been known to give off very bright light, and on more than one occasion, kill a person standing in the wrong place - cause of death: electrocution.

The same sort of thing can be seen when a roll of self-adhesive tape (brand name withheld) is unwound in the dark. Tiny light discharges appear where the tape is pulled off the roll [in answer to the forthcoming obvious question: the photographic industry where the bulk sensitised material is done-up into black polythene bags and the tape is used to seal them; been there, done that, T-shirt, etc....].

Yep, you are right, e-man! It's tribo-luminescence. This happen is South America a lot because there is a lot of quartz on their fault lines. Compare this to the San Andreas fault, which is granite on one side and serpentine on the other. It's a rather slippery mix.

Another thing that differentiates these two types of faults - South American earthquakes tend to give off a strong radio pulse just before hitting. This was discovered by radio telescopes in the region. Here, the difference in rock structure doesn't seem to give off any radio noise at all... So much for predicting!!! Maybe we could use a dowser it?

The Banana River lights up around this time of year when you splash the water around.

Tuquois Blue, bright as you have ever seen. Makes for good eatin' fun when you bite them near NASA fishies. YUM!

ciro: i am just an independent inventor type,or "midnight engineer", but after many years pf heaaring reports of ground lightening, and bright lite flashes, near earthquake areas. i persopnally believe that quartz crystals, being slammed together with sudden and enormous force, are generating "pizio-electric" charges, on an unheard of acale. an electrical,or geological eng. might give a more technical answer however.. happy hunting, chukfinn

The faults that are associated with the Chilean Andes are notorious for this behavior - lots of quartz there. And Arecibo frequently receives radio noise (off axis) from these events.

Ciro,

There is a lot that goes on during an earthquake, and the ocean is a complex environment. Many natural phenomena cause light. Two come to mind in this situation, with appropriate conditions.

If you have gone to sea on a ship you may have stood on the stern at night and watched the water. Several things routinely appear. One is a type of algae in the water that with the disturbance of the ship passing will phosphoresce quite brightly. One might expect that a magnitude 8 quake centered in the ocean nearby might be an even greater disturbance and cause much more phosphorescing. This might actually create the appearance of a glowing ocean.

Also, when at sea with a clear horizon at sunset (the quake was at 1821 local) there is a very unique phenomena. It is purely optical and not related to earthquakes. With a very clear atmosphere and other conditions just right, at the point when the sun drops below the horizon there appears just above the horizon a short green "flame." It lasts just a moment but would certainly qualify as a "light at sea."

If these do not explain what was seen, then provide more information.

Describe the light, how did it appear? Was it a pin-point of light, a flame above the water, a glow in the water, a bright flashing light, etc.?

When was it seen? When during the earthquake and what time of day? Was it dark out?

What was the weather at the time? How much clouds, how high, was it overcast, raining, storming?

Who saw the light? Where were they? Where were they relative to the light? More than one person? Ages? Backgrounds?

I hope this helps. I pray you and yours are well.

Best Regards,

Sam Hicks

I've seen video of an experiment where a rock was crushed and flashes of light appeared outside the rock. Here is a link to an abstract of a similar experiment.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUFM.T51B1335K

I believe these flashes were only observed in air so there may still be question of whether they can occur underwater.

Excellent. Thanks for the link.

Let me put on record another--personal Experience:

Time =2PM UTC 15Aug1950

Place Jorhat town E94°10',N26º50'

Happened Earthquakes -many jolts continued for 30minutes. Were told later = Richter 8.2 was the max. And many were as heavy!

Saw in the Eastern Himalayan Sky --Big flashes--lightning?-but sky was cloudless.

And Big Booming Cannon-like sounds from 50>100Km away. Hills were20Km away.

Not seen/heard till this day--what were these/how.

Your coordinates place you in southern Nagaland, according to Google Maps. Jorhat is up north. You were there when you saw these lights? Did the lights persist for the entire duration of the earthquake?

I have to say, 8.2 is one helluva earthquake. Glad you're still with us!

For me it looks like an earthquake. Similar flashes of blue, red were said to be noticed in the east coast of India a decade back, during a continuous storm, and brilliant flashes ultimately turned out to be lava from the ocean bed, killing thousand of persons living in a small island and totally swallowing it. It could have been a combination of storm and quake.All these happened in the course of an hour or so and noticed by persons living in the coastal area. As on date there was no trace of an island at all. This could have been one of nature's ferocity..

Sridhar

Ciro wrote:

I see the ligth from a distance of about 3000 meters from the coast, i see the reflection on the clouds, in this season the sky is completly cover by clouds, the ligths appears during the quake, there was not any report of electrical short circuit or explotion of a transformer, hundreds of persons watch the phenomenon some in coast see the ligth over the ocean by its refection in the clouds. The quake occurs at 6:40 pm it was already dark because now we are in the winter time, the color was greenish like flashes, do not appear moving around, you can see the shape in the video, the quake epicenter was about 170 km south-west from Lima, i did not hear any other sound different from the quake in fact it was not so noisy, no smell ozone, no crashing, no hissing sounds.

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Comment: Bioluminescence in the ocean is seen everywhere. While there are larger creatures using self-generated light in areas too deep for surface light to reach, the more commonly observed source is right at (or just below) the surface. These are microscopic critters called plankton. They are seen at all levels of the ocean, but tend to be more dense in colder water (<5 degree C) and illuminate green on being mechanically disturbed. Naval pilots have reported (to me, actually) seeing the bioluminescent trace of a large ship passing 30 minutes earlier. Such observations reported to have been made from a height of 10,000 feet.

Ciro, you report this was a completely dark night, total overcast, low ceiling, no light sources and during the earthquake off-shore. Further that it is winter so the water is cold and the range in only 3 km. The light was green. It seems a strong argument for bioluminescence.

Furthermore, observations of bioluminescence in the ocean were reported associated with the Indonesia quake a couple of years ago. It was not as bright, but then it was a tropical area and not technically night. (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/08/980824072053.htm)

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Happened Earthquakes -many jolts continued for 30minutes. Were told later = Richter 8.2 was the max. And many were as heavy!

Saw in the Eastern Himalayan Sky --Big flashes--lightning?-but sky was cloudless.

And Big Booming Cannon-like sounds from 50>100Km away. Hills were20Km away.

Not seen/heard till this day--what were these/how.

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Comment: I couldn't identify the quake. USGS shows the following for 1950 between magnitude 6 and 8.5:

CAT YEAR MO DA ORIG TIME LAT LONG DEP MAGNITUDE IEFM NOAA 1950 02 28 1020 46.00 144.00 340 7.90 MsNOAA 6F.. NOAA 1950 05 16 1323 -15.00 -69.50 250 7.90 MsNOAA NOAA 1950 05 21 1838 -14.00 -72.00 9 6.00 MsNOAA NOAA 1950 06 19 1236 -6.20 112.00 6.80 MsNOAA .C.. NOAA 1950 08 03 2218 9.80 -69.70 8 6.80 MsNOAA .C.. NOAA 1950 08 05 1908 -1.50 -78.20 60 6.80 MsNOAA EF.. NOAA 1950 10 05 1609 11.00 -85.00 60 7.70 MsNOAA .... NOAA 1950 10 08 0323 -3.80 128.30 60 7.60 MsNOAA .... NOAA 1950 11 02 1527 -6.50 129.50 50 8.10 MsNOAA .... NOAA 1950 11 17 1928 16.50 -100.40 0 6.80 MsNOAA ED.. NOAA 1950 12 02 1951 -18.30 167.50 60 8.10 MsNOAA ... NOAA 1950 12 09 2138 -23.50 -67.50 100 8.30 MsNOAA 7C.. NOAA 1950 12 10 0250 -14.50 -76.50 10 7.00 MsNOAA 7C.. NOAA 1950 12 10 1323 -28.50 -179.00 300 7.80 MsNOAA NOAA 1950 12 14 0152 -19.20 -175.70 200 7.90 MsNOAA 6F..

NOAA 1950 12 14 1415 16.30 -98.20 50 7.50 MsNOAA TD.. .T.....

Seems unlikely the USGS would miss a 8.2 quake, but then again, it hardly matters. What you experienced is very curious, even remarkable, and I can't think of anything that would explain it. Major earthquakes being fairly rare (fortunately) and unpredictable, there could be many phenomena associated with them that are unknown.

Consider the thunderstorm. Very common, they have been observed for centuries and one would assume everything large scale about them to have been observed long ago. Yet, only 15 or so years ago something startling about them was discovered – Red Sprites and Blue Jets. They are mostly seen from orbit or high flying aircraft.

It is not unreasonable to expect earthquakes to be hiding something just as startling. You may have seen it.

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Sridhar wrote:

For me it looks like an earthquake. Similar flashes of blue, red were said to be noticed in the east coast of India a decade back, during a continuous storm, and brilliant flashes ultimately turned out to be lava from the ocean bed, killing thousand of persons living in a small island and totally swallowing it. It could have been a combination of storm and quake. All these happened in the course of an hour or so and noticed by persons living in the coastal area. As on date there was no trace of an island at all. This could have been one of nature's ferocity..

Sridhar

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Comment: Sridhar, it seems likely you have seen Red Sprites and Blue Jets. A popular focus of NASA, no one seems to understand them yet, not even a little. There is a good discussion at URL http://elf.gi.alaska.edu/sprites.html and elsewhere.

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This was fun! Thanks for the opportunity.

Regards,

Sam Hicks

Mukulmahant wrote...

"Time =2PM UTC 15Aug1950
Place Jorhat town E94°10',N26º50'
Happened Earthquakes -many jolts continued for 30minutes. Were told later = Richter 8.2 was the max. And many were as heavy!
Saw in the Eastern Himalayan Sky --Big flashes--lightning?-but sky was cloudless.
And Big Booming Cannon-like sounds from 50>100Km away. Hills were20Km away."

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This earthquake easily fits the bill. NOAA records indicate that the magnitude was not 8.2, but 8.7: This was mammoth earthquake by any measure:

Catalog: NOAA
Year: 1950
Month: 08
Day: 15
Time: 1409 UTC
Latitude: 26.60 N
Longitude: 96.50 E
Magnitude: 8.70

Jorhat is located at 26.75 N, 94.21 E. From Muk's location, the earthquake occurred nearly due east at an azimuth of 94° and a distance of 230 km (~142 mi), just north of the village of Ulap Ga in the Hukawng Valley. A mountain range separates the two valleys about midway between them. This data fits Muk's description very closely.

Jorhat (left marker) and epicenter (right).

Here is a curious link. It does get sort of relevant toward the end. I'm not running with the 'earth as a piezo-electric lighter' type theory, because the only evidence I can see seems to point at bioluminescence (with reflective effect in the sky). Good thread topic Ciro.

Thanks Kris:

I also do not beleave that the piezo electric phenomenon is the respossible for the ligths but the question is, can the bioluminiscence be so powerfull to be watched seveal miles away and illuminate the clouds as you see in the video?

Ciro

Hi Kris,

I tend not to think bioluminescence is the culprit here. In my experience (at least) BL tends to persist for awhile after a disturbance. I've walked along a beach at night and have seen my footprints glowing for several minutes where I disturbed the little critters in the sand. Same for the wake behind my boat. The light persisted. The light in the video was a brief flash (two flashes, actually. The fainter one occurs about 34 sec into the video). It was not a persistent glow as I've seen with BL, and the light had a significant blue component. The BL that I've seen always had a yellowish-green cast. Nor would BL explain the significant intensity of the light, which, at its peak, was comparable in brightness to the headlights and street lamps also seen in the video.

If the light originated underwater, the water itself may have provided the bit of greenish cast seen in the video.

As others here have seen similar flashes occurring in mountainous areas during earthquakes, my guess is that the light has triboluminescent or piezoelectric origins. I think of the little piezo ceramic thingie in my electronic lighter and the jolt it produces. The thing must weigh less than a gram. Scale this little chunk up to something on the order of many kilometers and apply the forces present in an earthquake, and I think we're dealing with tremendous electric discharges on a scale that might very well light up the sky, IMO.

Speaking of electric discharges, earthquakes have been seen to alter the nearby electric gradient, disturb the geomagnetic field, and generate ULF and VLF radio waves.

That said, my take on this is that BL has little to do with what we're seeing here.

Wow , Ciro & europium, this really does get more and more curious !

It's precisely the comparison between piezo-electric lighters and earthquakes that is sticking in my throat. I can accept that if you have a mass of quartzite rock, and it gets subject to sudden forces ( earthquake scale), then something is going to happen. Exactly what, I'm not sure , but I really can't see huge flames leaping up into the sky from a crevice/fault line. I've never stood in a deep level mine ( quartzite rock + extreme pressure) in the dark when there's a rock-burst going on, and wouldn't want to, but I can't imagine in lighting up like July 4th.

Unfortunately, I can't state anything that demolishes your contention. What I'd like, is to have a very large chunk of quartz and a suitable place to drop it. ( The Eiffel tower springs to mind. ).

I'm going to have to read the thread and all the links over again, and see if I can find any more about this on the web.

Kris, maybe you'll have to make do with hiding under the duvet and pulling an old nylon vest off over your head...mmm pretty lights.

Although...I'd have thaught that down in Hades you'd have seen this stuff already or are the eternal firey pits throwing out too much light of their own?

I bet you can get some superb toast on that pitch fork?

Back on my head (as the old joke goes )

Del

...but I really can't see huge flames leaping up into the sky from a crevice/fault line.

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No, I don't think this is what is happening. For my part, I'm thinking that the whole show is taking place underwater, at the bottom. That the light originates there. Ciro said the sky was overcast at the time or, at least, cloudy, and so I'm thinking that what is seen on the video is light from below illuminating the underside of the cloud deck. The light is coming from beneath the sea, or seems to be, at least, where the action is taking place. From others' research into the PE properties of granite, quartz, and various other minerals granite, especially, is seen to have strong PE properties. (Ciro, do you have any idea what the seabed is made of in your neck of the woods?) Take a big sheet of this stuff - miles of it - and suddenly rip it apart or smash it together, and I'm sure we're bound to see something.

Man, I wish I'd been there to see it! Like, from a plane. I don't like earthquakes.

In the interest on Anglo-French relations (well, OK my impatience) I played with the above 2 bits of Quartz. The piece in the RHS is perfectly transparent ( I thought wtf and just scanned it ). Next I went into the dark......with a hammer.....and reckless abandon.....

The bit on the LHS went to dust. The RHS bit was more fun. A first moderate tap got a spark, but the kind you'd get off flint. A decent whack fractured it into 2, and I got a brilliant white light all over the fracture surface - I'm sure this purely a quartz/stress thing and nothing to do with the hammer. What this proves, I have no idea. I am now going to bed with my nylons as Del suggested. After I have got this f*****g rock out of my eye.

Check this out. And this.

With all of the brainpower resident at W.H.O.I. you'd think there'd be a link to a youtube demo video.

After you...

Bio-luminescence is no where nearly bright enough to cause light that would be reflected by clouds. Tribo-luminescence, on the other hand is a well known and documented event.

One of the things these fault lines have in common is they're fracture and crush faults, building large mountain ranges like in Chile and the Himalayas. Slip faults such as the San Andreas move and react at borders through a completely different process that is not inclined to create the same situation and forces. Nor are the formation of minerals the same on either fault type. Fracture and cruch faults are usually rich in metamorphic rocks, like quartz.

By the way, the "piezo-electric lighters" use substances call "Perkovites," which give off electrostatic spikes when thumped by a small, spring-loaded hammer.

Here is an excellent website on EQLs, or EarthQuake Lights.

I suspect that EQL's might have several different causes depending on the duration of the light and the timing in relation to the earthquake. However, most seem to be related to tribouminesence and rocks.

I wonder what would happen when quartz is crushed in the presence of magnetic rock. Would the piezoelectric effect set up an electrical field that would strengthen the magnetic field of the rocks enough to ionize the air and make it glow or flash? This might be part of what happened in Peru because the Andes are very high in iron. This may also play a role in what happened in the Himalayas.

Hmmmmmmm....

You could explore this line of thought further by crushing quartz in the presence of a magnetic field and with the field removed. Heck, I might try this myself and post pix of the results. Thanks for the suggestion, 3D

A good number of flashes can be seen in this video of the Peruvian earthquake. The flashes span a period of about twenty seconds, starting about 3 minutes 13 seconds into the video.

Opening of an under sea fissure, the tectonic plate roll, mantal expossure, you whitnessed a phenominum that is rarely seen or experienced. The actual flow of volcanic, undersea activity.

Maximo

Unfortunately, that's a subduction plate. Also, the mantel is a lot deeper than that!!!

out gassing.

Now we havn't yet had any alien visuals yet reported as being the cause of such a devistating erruption. Could it be that there is a large volcanic fissure prepairing to let loose in this area? I do not have access to any deep thermal sweeps of the magma movement in this particular area. If anyone has access to thermal imagery of underground flow, it could help pinpoint a build up and possibly predict a volcanic erruption in the area. Just a thought being loosed........ 8>)

Maximo

Volcanoes do not come from the Earth's magma. They are produced from melted rock in the Earth's crust. Just a small point.

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