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Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict amongst giants?

11/04/2007 9:56 AM

A friend has recently posted a thread .....here....with little response from the CR4 community. I found this odd at first, and was wondering about a resolve. No one I have talked to knows how to remedy the situation either. Across the hall from my office are a team of 10 designers all very well versed in Autodesk products. All I got from them was the knowing, unsurprised smirk or the furrowed brow of concern; but alas, no info.

So I have come to believe that there are no responses because no one realizes that there is a significant problem; a conflict between the two programs. Is this just more of the same MS crap? Here is our product, and we are going to charge you to troubleshoot for us (a longstanding complaint with MS). Or, here is our product (Vista) and we are going to make these other marketshare products (Autodesk) bow to us by intentionally making it difficult for them to function? Or is it simply just another; "Oh crap we forgot to put in those corrections at line #98889326!"

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Re: Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict amongst giants?

11/04/2007 11:08 PM

So what are we going to discuss here? The conflict among giants or the lack of enough responses to the thread?

There could be a number of reasons for lack of response: maybe no one knows anything about it; no one thinks it's solvable (like your designer friends); maybe the title wasn't "catchy"; plus other possible reasons (which I can't think of now).

I happen to fall in the first group.

About the conflict:

Microsoft has been accused of being arrogant before. 'Can't really say if that's true. However, after reading about Bill Gates in his younger years, he would probably think that forcing them to conform to his product would be counterproductive.

Autodesk has been around for a long time and has a pretty substantial customer base. If Microsoft decides to come up with an OS that doesn't work with Autodesk, he'll be missing out on those thousands (tens? hundreds of thousands?) of customers who will be pissed off with a move like this. It just doesn't make good business sense.

On the other hand, there are companies that want everyone to conform to them than work with them. A good example is the current Fieldbus wars in instrumentation.

There are about a half-dozen standards all fighting for superiority right now. All claim to be better than the next one and they will soon dominate the market and become the de facto standard. It's been more than twenty years now and they're still fighting.

Lastly, the "oops we forgot..." is a common failing in today's competitive world of business. The thrust is to get ahead and one of the ways to do that is by being first. This is where the top brass says, "we want this product out yesterday!" and we engineers scramble to get it for them. In these days of tight deadlines and tight budgets, it's easy to overlook something.

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Re: Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict among giants?

11/05/2007 12:51 AM

I am no expert, but my understanding is that when it was launched, many graphical programs did not work or performed poorly with Vista due to Microsoft stopping it's support for OpenGL and it's promoting DirectX.

Some vendors may want to pressure MS to keep the OpenGL graphics.

Is it a surprise to anyone the word Open does not make you many friends at MS?

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Re: Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict amongst giants?

11/04/2007 11:31 PM

In fact when the product was launched 2006 in India my first question to Auto desk person who made the presentation was what would be performance of the product on Vista ,how much it would cost to migrate from Xp to vista (Since Vista was yet to be launched in 2006)with this new Auto desk package .the answer was ask HP Auto desk partners in developing the software and who are the Hardware partners of the product.HP rep told me the product has been evaluated on vista and its works fine on vista and HP rep disappeared for whole day never to be seen again!I am just shareing my experience with Auto desk and HP,probably you maight get an answer from HP for your problems.

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Re: Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict amongst giants?

11/05/2007 12:42 AM

Woof!!! Did you stick your neck out!!!

By the way, you look like George Burns. So, like, where's Gracie?

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Re: Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict amongst giants?

11/05/2007 1:44 AM

She has gone with Mr.Burns i suppose!

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Re: Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict amongst giants?

11/05/2007 8:50 AM

It might be simply that no-one here knows enough about what the problem is to be able to help.

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Re: Architectural Desktop and Vista. A conflict amongst giants?

11/06/2007 2:12 PM

I presume the reason why this posting has generated zero interest is for the following;

Why bother messing around with Vista at this stage? I presume your job like mine is to produce engineering results? When and if, the pioneers have got over their wounds and have it sorted, then I will take a look at migrating to Vista, right now I will stick with XP Pro, it works and works well. Vista is mostly about helping disorganised dummies run their PC, I cannot see one compelling reason for me to go there, and plenty to make me stay with XP Pro,

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