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Scatter Graph in MS Excel (or other)?

11/21/2007 9:06 AM

Does anyone know how to produce a scatter graph in Excel. If not Excel is there another suitable package can read data (i.e csv files) and produce something similar?

I have inserted a simple hand drawn example of what I'm after below.

Each point to plot has a direction value (0..360) and magnatude value say (0..100mph).

In the above graphic data points a..d would be approx:

a=60 deg, 85mph

b=135 deg, 20mph

c=250 deg, 50mph

d=315 deg, 50mph.

I can't seem to get any of the normal Excel charts to show this type of graphic. btw the lines joining each point to the central axis (x,y=0) are not necessarily required. Just the points themselves would be fine. I'm not too fussy : )

Does anyone know of a formula and/or chart type that I can use to represent this please?

Look forward to your suggestions. Many thanks in advance.

Ian.

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Re: Scatter Graph in MS Excel (or other)?

11/21/2007 9:54 AM

In Excel, click insert, select CHART.

done

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11/21/2007 12:02 PM

Thanks but what type of chart.

I have tried this as i stated. I've been using excel for quite a while and know my way around but this is something new i am trying to do and can't seem to find the right tool to do it.

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11/22/2007 3:02 AM

In Excel, try Chart Wizard / Standard Types / Radar.

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Re: Scatter Graph in MS Excel (or other)?

11/22/2007 6:27 AM

Can't help you with exactly what you're after (to me Excel's radar doesn't appear to do what you want). However you can try a Bubble chart - it's perhaps the closest within Excel.

It gives you your data on an x,y graph but the magnitude of the second variable (which you had as distance from origin) is given by the size of the data point itself.

So your data will look like 4 floating bubbles - not quite the elegant solution you were after, but you get visual comparison between variables.

... but your solution has to be possible in Excel ... still thinking ...

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11/22/2007 7:01 AM

You are absolutely right, RobertOz, Radar is irrelevant. But, the following works, using scatter without connecting lines:

=85*sin(60*pi()/180) =85*cos(60*pi()/180)

=20*sin(135*pi()/180) =20*cos(135*pi()/180)

=50*sin(250*pi()/180) =50*cos(250*pi()/180)

=50*sin(315*pi()/180) =50*cos(315*pi()/180)

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Re: Scatter Graph in MS Excel (or other)?

11/22/2007 7:30 AM

My answer to RobertOz gives results which differ from your graph because you are using topographical or surveying clockwise directions starting at the 'north' while in mathematics a counterclockwise system starting at the 'east' is customary.

Math = 450 - Top, if Math > 360 then Math = Math - 360

Top = 450 - Math, if Top > 360 the, Top = Top -360

These transformations are easy to implement.

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11/22/2007 8:06 AM

Beautiful!

For anyone who is interested... Dovy's method gives the following result when graphed as scatter Excel (the two x transf, y transf columns are the result of the transforming equations (ie =85*SIN(60*PI()/180), =85*COS(60*PI()/180) etc)

(meant to reply to #5 not #6...)

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Re: Scatter Graph in MS Excel (or other)?

11/22/2007 10:49 AM

Hi Ian,

I think, you can do that, using a macro vbscript of excell,

manipulating the lines and graphics!!

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Re: Scatter Graph in MS Excel (or other)?

11/23/2007 8:47 AM

Hey guys,

I've been away for a couple of days but dovy, RobertOZ, what you have plotted looks to be just what i'm after.

i have a file containg a goodly sample of data and running this through your formulae works a treat.

Many many thanks.

Ian : )

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Re: Scatter Graph in MS Excel (or other)?

11/24/2007 6:28 PM

Thanks Ian -

Nice to be able to help!

However the elegant brain work was Dovy's - a really clever yet simple solution.

Robert

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11/25/2007 2:37 AM

Thanks to Ian and Robert but I can't claim brainwork. The transformation is plain 'polar to cartesian'. It is even available on clever pocket computers. The geographical system, measuring directions clockwise starting at 'north', is much more intuitive compared to the mathematical one, which goes counterclockwise starting at 'east'. I don't know why this difference was implemented. I guess navigation predated the cartesian coordinate system.

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