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Identify this device?

01/18/2008 1:10 PM

A student brought this in wondering what it was. Can anyone tell me what it is, or what it's used for? It's heavy for its size and doesn't appear to be magnetic or radioactive. Thanks.

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01/18/2008 1:29 PM

This would be an ultrasonic transducer. It's designed to be submerged under water, and is used to generate steam or mist from the water.

Place it in a bowl of water so that there's ¾" of water above the top of the device. Turn it on, and mist should start raising from the bowl. A lot of these were used to add misty, little clouds to those mini decorative fountains.

Warning, while on and submerged, don't get your finger too close to the brass disk. Within about ½" to ¼" you'll distinctly feel the ultrasonic field that's busting up the water. It feels like a thousand little needles sticking into the tip of your finger - you are getting disrupted!!!

On more thing, do you have the little power supply that plugs into the end of the cable? You're going to need that.

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01/18/2008 1:43 PM

Yep, looks like the one I use for supplementary humidification (and atmosphere!) in my bedroom

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01/19/2008 10:14 PM

Am I the only one troubled by knowing this fact?

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01/18/2008 2:20 PM

Very useful info, thank you!

No, I do not have the little power supply. What kind would I need and where would I get one?

Thanks again.

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01/18/2008 11:22 PM

I've heard of them but never seen one until now. I do know about ultrasonic cleaning devices for pH probes though. That one had a signal generator separate from the immersed unit. The power supply you mentioned might be more than just a power supply. It might also be the source of the ultrasonic signal.

'Might be wrong so please correct me .

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01/19/2008 12:04 AM

Hey, Vulcan...

No. They're made as a single unit, water-proof, and just takes DC power. You can buy these things complete for about $40.00.

As I said before, if you get your finger too close while it's operating underwater, the little bastard will bite your finger really well! It's not a shock, it's the ultrasonic signal trying to do to your finger what it's doing to the water!

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01/19/2008 12:44 AM

Hi vermin

It's designed to be submerged under water, and is used to generate steam or mist from the water.

If you have one, could you do an experiment for me? Pleeease!

Put the ultrasonic transducer in petrol and check the combustabillity of the generated gasses. I would do it if I had one and you would ask me. I promise. Ky.

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01/19/2008 12:47 AM

I guarantee if we did that, the vapors would go BLAM!!!

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01/19/2008 7:20 AM

How much more than a "normal" BLAM. Or would it be less than our known combustion formulas. I'll get one and sort it out for my self. The set up would not be to hard to deal with and I will let you know about how 'me missus' thought about it all. Once she listens. Xanthippe is the word that comes to mind. Here comes the barrel.

You know were this is leading : to more freeerer energy. Lets fall for it one more time. How much better to not search for answers but to fall in trying to get them.

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PS: I will report on the paint tube eating bug/vermin as soon as this summer is over. Things come in waves and seasons, with all concerned.

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01/20/2008 12:51 AM

When you light the vapor, watch out for the BLVE.

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01/20/2008 5:30 PM

BLVE.

Does that stand for Belated Laughter Vermin Emitted? He who laughs last kind of thing. If not, please explain. I am willing to laugh first or last or any where in between.

I have already come up with the design of the test unit. Will have to travel to Australia to get the parts. Tried to google some combinations but nobody seems to have gone there. Maybe they got there but did not come back to report for some reason or other. See how it all works out. Ky.

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01/21/2008 12:21 AM

Boiling Liquid Vapor Explosion - Just shy of A bomb destruction.

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01/18/2008 5:25 PM

Looks like a transducer used as a fogger sold in pet stores. Used to humidify the air for certain reptiles. Check a pet store for the power supply.

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01/19/2008 12:21 AM

I showed the picture to my father; he says these are used in oriental gardens to create a climatic effect for Bonzais? He saw one in Korea ca. 1952?

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01/19/2008 12:42 AM

I don't think they go back quite so far! In 1952, it would have had tubes and be about the size of the family car!!!

Anyway, their basic use has been as a device for creating a mist that comes from a vessel of shallow water. Mostly used about 5 years ago to add spooky or mystic mood to all those desktop waterfalls they sold.

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01/19/2008 5:34 AM

I don't know but wouldn't it make a racket or a buzzing noise?

I worked with ultrasonic cleaner tanks and they buzz in a most unfriendly frequency which makes it hard to work with it for long.

Wouldn't want that on my desktop, too much distraction if you ask me.

Mind you, it would be nicer than Windows and probably more bearable.

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01/20/2008 12:48 AM

These things are silent to the human ear.

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01/19/2008 8:02 AM

Mmm, I don't know what you're all looking at.

It is clearly most if not all, of a 12 inch ruler. (the photos are not accurate enough to determine if this is a partial artefact) It is marked in both metric and imperial scales, and from other markings on it, I would say it is almost certainly of Antipodean origin.

It's purpose is to illustrate the size of things in photographs, and you will notice a raised portion whch provides finger grip for moving it around.

It won't be magnetic or radioactive, and is made of acrylic in this case.

I don't know what that thing next to it is.

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01/19/2008 9:12 AM

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01/19/2008 11:00 AM

Very Good! Hahahahahahaha!!!

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01/19/2008 10:11 PM

Damnit! I wanted to say that! I couldn't of said it as well anyway.

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01/20/2008 11:24 AM

"...you will notice a raised portion whch provides finger grip for moving it around."

That is actually a magnifier, for reading lines of fine print, etc.

Still funny tho.

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01/20/2008 3:25 PM

No, the handle in said photo is for the masseur/masseuse so that it can easily be moved around the body.

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01/21/2008 5:28 AM

I bow to your superior resolution.

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01/21/2008 8:13 AM

ok, it's a ruler. I've heard of inches and millimeters for rulers. But what the heck is a "Canberra?" What is the coversion to mm, please. And what is the abbrieviation? Cb?

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01/21/2008 9:12 AM

Canberra is a company that makes radiation detection and measurement instrumentation. It's now part of the Areva group. See http://www.canberra.com/

Have to thank everybody for the valuable info and the general entertainment.

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01/21/2008 10:11 AM

And I do work for their Canada division.

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01/21/2008 11:37 AM

Now I know whose product they were using to make sure the thing wasn't radioactive....

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01/19/2008 10:26 AM

It is an ultrasonic evaporator. The very first answer from Vermin is the correct one. By the way, I use a similar device to increase relative humidity in winter, indoors for better comfort. Tried many other kind of humidifiers before, they all failed shortly, or were a pain to maintain with the hard water I have. The ultrasonic vaporizes the water along its mineral content, requiring a good vacuuming and dusting once in a while.

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01/20/2008 6:10 PM

Vermin rarely gives straight answers and when he does I figure he has actual experience, which in this case he reports of. Therefore it is likely he has told you what it is and what it did to his finger.

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01/21/2008 9:24 AM

Is it some sort of load cell/washer - a very small one?

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01/21/2008 9:25 AM

I'm going to take a guess, but it is only a guess, YMMV.

The window is the thing that gets me thinking in this direction. It looks like beryllium. Beryllium has only a few industrial uses, one of which is as a neutron generator. I suspect you have in your possession a neutron generator. when powered up, they generate a spray of neutrons out the beryllium window. when powered back down, they are no longer radioactive (for the most part, there may be some incidental neutron activation that decays quickly). they are used for a number of processes including radiography. I suspect this device was designed for that purpose. I would suggest you NOT power it up.

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01/21/2008 9:30 AM

I would also add that the body of such a device would probably be made of tungsten or lead. Since you stated that the device is very heavy for it's size this also seems to indicate it is not an ultrasonic transducer.

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01/21/2008 9:49 AM

That is an Ultrasonic transducer which atomises water to create a nice foggy mist. That particular module contains 3 colored LED's that cycle colors. The black assembly jutting out the top is the water level sensor which will shut the device off if the water level drops too low. It requires 24 VDC at 1.5 amps to operate. Imported from China, works well as a humidifier with a LED light show to add ambiance.

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01/23/2008 5:34 PM

Have you seen those decorative bowls that make fog? They call them misters, ionizers, etc. If you plug it in and put in under water, you'll see.

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01/24/2008 6:29 AM

I spy with my little eye something beginning with a S = S-tray (Ashtray)

I actually see a methane, CO2, O2, CO etc sensor used in mines.

The gold strainer on top with a sort of membrane underneath to keep water out, (and flames in) with a pelistor sensor(s) inside. (thin platinum coiled wire with catalytic bead around it)

The cable leading out must be plugged into electronics. Because methane are lighter than air the sensor must be placed at a high spot, hence the handle to be attached to a broomstick.

It is heavy to enable disposing heat generated by the burning methane

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06/23/2008 4:03 PM

Looks like a seismic sensor or accelerometer.

Does it measure a resistance reading? A low ohms (10,000 ohms or less) is likely an inductive device whereas a high or infinity reading is likely a piezo-electric one.

Put the connector on a o-scope and thump or shake it to see if it puts out any voltage proportional to the force used.

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06/24/2008 1:41 AM

Bill,

Read the other posts... It's been properly identified about a bazillion times already.

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