Stonehenge to be Moved?

They shouldn't move it. period.

Ya, why not right in the middle of Leicester Sq. Or even better, move it to Arizona, set it up next to London Bridge.

Oh, wait a minute, I have a thought forming in my head....how about put up some fences along the A303 so that it can't be seen.

Naw, that would be to easy, and cost no where near enough.

Arizona, set it up next to London Bridge.

Yeh..the guy who bought London Bridge bought a right Pup...he thought he was buying Tower Bridge...the pretty one. He'd get his money's worth with Stone Henge it is pretty cool, but it is one hell of a distraction as you drive past it.
Del

I remember driving down the highway in Arizona and seeing the sign for the London Bridge...buying a bridge...a bit of a hairbrained idea but we debated it for miles and miles, wondering if it really was the 'London' bridge (we were also confused with the tower bridge) or if it was just a last effort to get you to exit the highway and get lost in a tourist destination.

Stonehenge with stone fences?...

And dedicated lighting to replicate the movements of the sun THE REASON FOR WHICH IT WAS ASSEMBLED IN ITS PRESENT LOCATION AND ORIENTATION. Stonehenge isn't just the rocks, it's the ground it sets on. What's to stop "them" from moving graveyards (or Gettysburg) because they interfere with traffic and housing development.

I saw this on the early evening news yesterday. They had prissy bit's of foam taped to the smaller blue-stones, to protect them as the bigger ones were tackled. Apart from grey foam not being adequate to protect them, they didn't even spray them high-visibility orange. What really annoys me is that they've done this without a proper public consultation. I tell you, it's the last time I give a cheery wave to one of those Eddy Stobart bast drivers. None of the potential relocation sites are suitable ; The welsh will complain, the Northeners will swear they have something bigger, and Banksi would put graffiti on them if in London. They should go to the White Cliffs of Dover. If tilted slightly, which they undoubtedly will be, it would look like 2-fingered waving at the French. The sea breeze would keep them nice and clean as well. Seriously though, how many times are we going to allow our national heritage to be destroyed like this ? It's a bloody disgrace.

"They should go to the White Cliffs of Dover."

For a certain vanishing generation, the most popular song after God Save the Queen is now to have new lyrics:

"There'll be blue stones over

the White Cliffs of Dover"

Very funny. Not.

They should get this guy to help.

Sounds to me that they just want to dig them up. Good idea, destroy them so we know what they mean. Move them? Are you kidding me? What, it's too far for the tour busses to drive? Why don't you make a replica out of Styrofoam and put in Kew Gardens.

The A303 thing sounds like a lame excuse. Plant some trees and put up a fence. That will end all the rubbernecking right off. Of course, much cheaper than a diversion, or a tunnel, so it will never happen.

Did anybody see the 2005 documentary Stonehenge: The Ultimate Experiment Live?

It was produced by Darlow Smithson Productions and covered the construction, transportation, installation and initial use of a full scale replica of Stonehenge. The replica was constructed off site using low density foam polymers and then coated with high density reinforced polymers that protected the structure and reproduced the finish of the real structure. The individual elements were constricted in a large warehouse the location of which escapees me and then transported primarily by rail to the final site not too far from the real structure. The final structure was then aligned so that it would replicate the celestial alignment of the real structure back when it was built.

A very interesting program indeed and it covered the project in detail all the way from the initial concept right up to the archeologists using it to unravel some of the mysteries of the real Stonehenge. However, the transportation of the finished components became suspicious mainly due to the way it was not covered in the program.

The finished components didn't have anything like the mass of the real rock and stone elements but the size was the same as the real structure and turned into somewhat of a nightmare for the people building the reproduction. Ultimate the armed forces were involved with the transportation and they utilized and old rail spur line that ran from the warehouse they were using to construct the replica.

Nobody thought much about this seeming oversight by the documentary makers but there were noises that the armed forces being involved was a critical part of the project and the armed forces being involved was more important that was being let on. Not much was said but there was an undercurrent that the real reason for constructing the replica was a dry run to look at the problems that would be involved in dismantling the real Stonehenge and either storing it in a safe location or reconstructing in somewhere more suitable.

It certainly makes one think that there is more going on than the powers to be are admitting.

What you may not have noticed, masu, is that this fiasco is being conducted as part of the BBC's policy of promoting 'popular arachaeology'. That's all very well, but they go in and do these televised digs, paying scant regard to the fact that full time professionals could do it better. Getting some TV 'Celeb' to front such a programme is an insult to the professionals. Yet again, the need for instant gratification on TV overides common sense. The damage done will be irrepreable, and yet again it's being done with our money. I'll be very surprised if they can manage to move the stones without damage.

April fool?

If moved then it no longer is a historical site but a museum piece. Here is some thing that has stood the test of time about 5000 years at its present location. Can we be insured that what would be provided at the new location would endure as well. Not being a citizen of your country I can not tell you how to safe guard your national treasures.

To reduce the traffic problems I due feel that they have made a mountain out of a mole hill. Have made extravagant plans that no one wants to fund.

Move the road 100 feet away from the site and plant some trees to obstruct the drivers view.

Did anyone look at the date when this thread was posted?

Yes folks I'm afraid it was just Baaaad Kitty toying with you all on April the First
...they are really going to blow it up and build the 'Lionel Tony Blair' Housing Estate for impoverished politicians to let out to bolster their final salary linked inflation proof pension schemes.

(It wasn't me ... Kris made me do it)

Del

I would have developed it as a Westworld style theme park ! The politicians wont have their fingerprints on a data-base, so we could shoot 'em up.

Shouldn't it be a Druid style theme park?

English Rose is curiously absent so advice is lacking, but we may be able to get a Yul Bryner from Madam Tussuad's. Adding a 'Wicker Man' would make it a sure fire winner - a different politician every week.

Are you sure they'll burn? I thought they were all fireproof.

Like the mayor of New York or anywhere else, they think they're fireproof, but the oiliness will get 'em in the end. Failing to voluntarily publish their own expenses says a lot about our politicians. Claiming security concern is one of the biggest loads of BS ever tried. The charade of parliamentary prayers must be a hoot at Mark 8:36. A vacant plinth at Trafalgar Square should have a statue of Robert Maxwell.

Hahaha, I agree politicians do like to hide behind the guise of having the best interest of the public safety in mind, it's usually hogwash.

Del, score 1 for a good April fool's joke!

"...moving it to a better location..."

Ah, yes, like the Acropolis in Athens, Greece. That location was safe for several thousand years as a location for the Elgin Marbles, which are now at risk in...oh, my, how embarassing this all must be for those of you in the UK, eh?

I don't know what you mean, we're quite serious about marbles over here, especially in my part of the country.

Hastings Borough Bonfire Society! I love it!!!

I always thought "Keepers of the Flame" was just a figure of speech these days...

...but what's that to do with...

HBBS is involved with lots of activities including the marbles, parades, fireworks, wassailing, the Jack-in-the-green celebration & others, strangely they all seem to involve drinking large quantities of real ale.

Wot's so strange about drinking large quantities of real ale? Over here, we do it all the time - although oftentimes we substitute lager or pilsner for the ale - just for the sake of variety, mind you. After all, there's nothing quite like...

...an Arrogant Bastard!

IT seems to me that planting a simple hedge between Stonehenge and the road, blocking the drivers view, would solve a lot of problems. It is definitely more environmental friendly. It is probably a much cheaper fix to the driver viewing problem than moving it. Plus it won't piss off the aliens when they return.

Stopit... stopit....it was an April fool joke...

We are blithely oblivious to your sniveling pleas, cat! Plant the hedges, erect the fences, divert the roadbeds, and be done with it! April or otherwise, more fool you! If so much as ONE rock is relocated, the Druids will be upon ye...

How about moving the Millennium dome & using that to cover the stones, they could still have concerts inside without having any neighbours to disturb.

ROFL ! You really shouldn't start these things if you can't take the heat. Trying to wriggle out of it by claiming it was a joke wont work, it's a serious problem. C'mon Del, you owe it to us. They've already made a temporary mock up to fill the gap;

Why do I keep thinking of Spinal Tap?

(Usual connection is that stage model is ¹/₁₂th scale due to accidental use of " instead of ' as units indicator - see pt 1 from link - The Design Stage)

Temporary? Looks more like ramshackle! Over here in Nebraska (of all places!) we have a much more permanent version. No aliens involved in constructing this one, unless y'all consider us rowdy former colonials as such...

http://www.carhenge.com/

Tasmania has a more temporary one ;

Balehenge - I like it! Here in the US though, we have a long history of doing odd things with automobiles...

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/TX-CadillacRanch.html

That's good, but I'm not done with stonehenge yet !

I'm sure I can find more.........

You're just gonna run this into the ground, aren't you?!?

I respect that...

Yeah !!! I want to flog every piece of meat off this horse. Del's suggestion is giving me a curious, yet at the same time shameless, feeling of excitement.

What doesn't give you a shameless feeling of excitement?!? Tell the truth, or say naught. Meanwile, how about a little SPACEHENGE...

Bwa hahahahhahahahahahaaaaaa cough, cough, gasp, gasp stop it you both are killing me! Leave it to a sly cat and a cunning devil to pull the wool over our eyes. I do like the idea of moving it to Arizona along side of the London Bridge. I guess that give me a reason to go visit that dust bowl

Shhhhh....don't let him think we haven't rumbled him ! Me and Enviroman have been going to huge lengths making the cat sweat with daft henge pictures. I suffered with 'bath', and now Dels gonna have to prowl with a henge around his neck. It's great, we've finally belled the cat ! I've convened a meeting of the fur owners society, and the dogs have already pledged allegiance. The patio is ours ! Del never notice Ms Kacklepennyy, ack ack kka ka ha kkack ha, oh pleas kwis, leave me alone youy big boy ...ah ha hahahahah !

" right boys, Fort Knox.....now it's ours !"

kakakakakakakakakakaaa SHHHHH I'll be as quiet as I can 'k? Hey Del, don't pay any attention to the clacking keys of my keyboard and go lay in the sun you rascal, you...

Hey Kris was that quiet enough? I want to see a pic of the nice new necklace that is adorning Dels neck. Is it anything like Mr. T's ? Or is it more subtle?

"Roswell Triangle" Hmm! Catchy. I think maybe we can get something going here.

You won't get off that easy. We're gonna stick it to ya!

OK, got the joke, but this is an extract from an article in the Guardian:

1915 Cecil Chubb bought Stonehenge at an auction in Salisbury for £6,600, and three years later presented it to the nation - receiving a knighthood in return, despite the suggestion in War Office records that the stones should be dismantled as a hazard to aviation.

Maybe they should all be fitted with red flashing lights?

Dear Sir or Madam,

If Stonehenge would really disturb traffic,would not it be less expensive to put up a wall at the road to hinder "viewing" by car ?

If ever this is no joke, Stonehenge was created exactly on that spot for some reasons that manhood would like to unravel ever since - why not move London Tower instead ?

Kind regards

"why not move London Tower instead ?"

Good idea, I've never understood why they built the tower so close to the railway & docks.

And here's one that couldn't disturb traffic (even in the UK) on it's worst day. It's a scale model in stents of Stonehenge. Stenthenge was created with pieces of scrap Nitinol self expanding vascular stents embedded in cured Sylgard 184 elastomer. It is a nearly perfect reproduction of the layout of the famous stone circle in England in a compact package just about the perfect size for a paper weight.

A thought that comes to mind is what the Chinese did with their porcelain warriors. They built a humongous building around them, so they are now climatically controlled... with no more wind errosion. It would no longer be visible from the highway, and people would have to park to see it. Also if you charged admission, it would help defray the cost of the building and maintenance.

The thought of moving the whole thing seems a bit blasphemous. How do they propose to move the holes which once had wooden posts in them? If one of the cities want a stonhenge, let them build a copy.

Bill

"...move the holes which once had wooden posts..."

Oh, c'mon! Really...the holes are in the ground, right? DIG 'EM UP! Fer cryin' out loud (exits, stage left) _{mumble, grumble, show 'em how to do evv'yting...}

ahem .....BEER TENT !!! Since it's all druid related, can we have mistletoe as well ?

"...all druid related..."

A common misapprehension. Druids may have used Stonehenge, but it was constructed something like a thousand years prior to their presence.

True, but nobody seems to really know who built it. Even if it was the beaker people, we don't know much about them apart from the fact that they liked, well, beakers. Why bits of Welsh rock were used is anyones guess. There's lots of henge-type structures all around Northern Europe, many of them just as impressive as Stonehenge. Just last night I..........

I saw an estimate rescently for the build time on Aylesbury, set at 300 years +-. How long do you think it took build Stonehenge and what was the population of the country employed to do it?