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Misplaced advertising

04/11/2008 9:16 PM

I recently noticed multiple Google ads on CR4. The interesting thing is these ads were for devices that seem to contradict some very basic laws of physics. I.e. run your car on water.com.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/19899#newcomments

On first sight running ads for "free energy devices" on a site frequented by engineering professionals would be a waste of money, however the site is also visited by nonprofessionals seeking answers to technical problems.

I'm quite sure the administrators of this site would never actively promote any of these "scams", however is there a possibility of adding de facto support by allowing these types of ads to be run on a credible scientific/engineering website?

Advertising= money. A very simple equation. However could the sites monetary interest as well as the public's best interest possibly be better served by a adding a specific section for debunking these scams? Technical questions googled regularly cite CR 4 in the top 10 results.

More hits equal more money. Debunking free energy scams could be profitable while performing a public service. There's certainly enough expertise on this site, in a wide variety of scientific and engineering disciplines, to do the job.

Many of the members of this site find debunking scams a entertaining pastime. Seems like it could be a win-win situation. More money, performing a public service, and keeping some bored engineers entertained with the ever more imaginative free energy devices.

PS. Increasing your fuel economy by 50% by burning water is an obvious scam. Anyone knows that antiproton injection is the way to go. I am seeking investors . I'm about to offer the technology to a member with a 6000 mile per gallon pod. Should easily increase fuel economy by a hundred fold, or get rid of my competition , probably both.

As preposterous as my claims are, at least they are within the realm of real science. Which is more than I can say for some of the products I've seen advertised on the site.

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Re: Misplaced advertising

04/14/2008 1:47 PM

Hi YWROADRUNNER,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. When we tuned our Google Adwords advertising, we blocked out many advertising opportunities that did not fit with the mission of CR4. We did not, however, think of runonwater.com and the like. We're working with our agent to get them removed. Let us know if you see any similarly untoward ads and we'll get them out as well.

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- Chris

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Re: Misplaced advertising

04/14/2008 4:20 PM

Hmm, I think it would make for an interesting topic to retain these adds but only on pages where they are discussed, and if they present an erroneous premise they can be debunked. This would allow the manufacturers to support the science behind their product, if it is possible. It would be like a mythbuster blog page.

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Re: Misplaced advertising

04/14/2008 8:56 PM

Hello Chris
Thank you for your reply, it seems like the bots can sniff out a advertising opportunity. I think it's great that you try and avoid this type of advertising. I know when googling some subjects that this pseudo scientific advertising shows up on other technical/scientific sites. In fact have recently run into some very good information but I was embarrassed to post the link to the site that I found it on because of the technobabble advertising.

I still think a scam busters section could be great fun, and good advertising for the site.

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Re: Misplaced advertising

06/05/2008 11:59 PM

Censorship anyone?

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Re: Misplaced advertising

06/06/2008 8:51 AM

So Blue, if you ran a site like this you would accept paid advertising from anyone?

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Re: Misplaced advertising

06/08/2008 8:51 AM

Hello Chris: seems blues comment is a mute point. There back. Any time there's a discussion about these hydrogen devices the Google bot's seem to sniff out the page.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/22311#newcomments

just thought you might like to know.

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Re: Misplaced advertising

06/06/2008 11:30 AM

This is a legal and acceptable form of censorship, much like you as a parent are allowed to censor the content your children read such that they are not reading some extremely graphic pornography. The owners of any site can censor the content, since it is their property. If you don't want any form of censorship, then the marketers would have to fully disclose everything about there products, since they censor their marketing efforts to promote their own sales. I would suspect this would adversely effect your sales of your product, if you had to tell everyone absolutely everything you know about the product. We should expect companies to censor their sites, at a minimum to reduce waste of their hard storage capacity and trivial junk that would drive the target market away.

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