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Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/23/2008 12:14 PM

Anyone familiar with small blinking led light units placed in toys and run by coin batteries? Have a need for motion-activated inserts. Have been on the wholesale world-wide sites but all they want to offer are ready-made toys to sell (????) or led light signs.

I have a prototype ready to go but am at a loss as to how to acquire these (should be cheap) items. Factory I am dealing with also has a plant in China and all they can buy is a minimum of 40,000 for my first run. No good. Wish to have a start-up run of 1000 only.

Other options are farming my invention out or selling it outright. We will call it a "toy". There are so many translucent little gimmicks on the market, I cannot understand why I can't find the works that go inside. I did come up with some graphics on these and actually drew a facsimile of one for a provisional patent. Kicking myself for not saving a bookmark of the site.

The other part of my question: Can these led lights be powered by photovoltaic cells? Such power is utilized by hand-held calculators and the units are so cheap, the calculators are often given away in promotional advertising. If the technology is available, the devise I am trying to produce will last longer. To give you a general idea, it resembles a petri dish about 1/4" thick and will be sealed to be water-resistant.

Thank you, Kelsy

(formerly Joankelsy. Had difficulty changing my email address on CR4.)

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/23/2008 12:57 PM

R U looking for a mfgr? Parts available from many sources. My favorites are DigiKey, Alliedelec, or Newark.

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/23/2008 3:09 PM

We sell small quantities of these flashing LEDs that you are looking for. On checking we have three different reds in stock, E157, E158 and E158 are the part numbers. Check us out at intl-lighttech.com

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/23/2008 3:10 PM

Google "joule thief" for some simple low voltage circuits. Go to www.makezine.com and search on "solar powered" to find a bunch of simple solar power hacks of various devices, and then "motion detector" for some of those.

That will give you a decent idea of what is available technically. It's not clear from your post exactly what sort of help you are looking for.

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/24/2008 4:40 AM

G24 Innovations can provide compact, flexible photovoltaic material for your application & many others. See www.g24i.com.

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/24/2008 8:59 PM

Interesting stuff but not exactly what I'm after. Need a complete unit to place inside a small toy.

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/24/2008 7:15 PM

If it's a drink coaster.. Then you have shown your hand.

They have been done too..

Otherwise, the mechanism is usually a tiny spring with a wire in it. a real hair triger!

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

04/24/2008 9:46 PM

how did I get a score for being off topic? By giving an answer with a prediction?

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

05/01/2008 4:04 PM

Did not mean to insult you but this is not a guessing game. The actual shape of this item would give it away. It could be an elephant or a space ship.

I am just looking for the part.

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

05/01/2008 5:09 PM

Kelsy,

Have you considered contacting a printed circuit board company? They can probably help you pick your components, design the board, and make a limited quantity for a reasonable cost. Then if you have success with marketing (and that is the really hard part) you can look at getting your cost lower. Lots of good ideas die when it gets to marketing. If it is as obvious or as easy as you seem to imply, you will want to do all of your research for distribution right away. There are lots of hungry manufacturers who will copy your idea (patent or not) just when you get a few months out. So, you may want to consider a strategy of hitting the market long enough to verify the demand and then get out by selling your idea to one of these hungry manufacturers. It beats watching it get taken away by someone who has no ethics or morals or respect for the little guys.

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Re: Battery or Photovoltaic Powered Led Lights

05/01/2008 11:49 PM

So you gave me off topic for guessing... ? and then you insinuate that I'm insulted by your action..

I was just guessing as to why?... I guessed right!

cool

I should get a lot of that..

good luck

Score me up for another off topic...

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