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Creating a perfect generator !

04/29/2008 11:05 PM

what do you feel it would take to make a generator with no moving magnets and coils ? one that used no fuel ? and left no after waste. if the goverment allowed this to come to market do you feel one could change the world ?

if this unit could be placed in a car or truck and replace fuel would you buy it ?

and what do you think the world would do as this would change the laws of phsics as we know it.

and before you say it i know you still think it cant be done !

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Re: Creating a perfect generator !

04/30/2008 3:06 AM

guest; dream on nothing for nothing pac

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04/30/2008 5:15 AM

As a matter of fact, it can be done. It utilizes the ultrarare element unobtainium, the only known susbtance to be a superconductor even at temperatures above 95,000oC, rotating in an oscillating pattern in a magnetic field applied perpendicular to the force of gravity. Once activated, it will create a miniature black hole that will suck in antimatter and release energy in levels a thousandfold above unity.

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05/01/2008 6:25 PM

Hi DVader1000!

In consideration of the possibility that yet another GA would potentially overweigh your ship's capacity and cause you to sink, I'm voting a tacit GA on this answer to the question.

No, it doesn't even attempt to treat the question with any degree of conscious thought.

No, it doesn't try to answer the question.

No, it doesn't make any real contribution to the thread.

BUT

By damn! It's very clever, and highly amusing.

So, one laaarge tacit GA (really wouldn't be fair to CR4 to give you a weighty one for this anyway...but I do appreciate the blog!) for tickling my funnybone.

Thanks.

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04/30/2008 9:36 AM

"If" is the key word.

"If" the government allowed it...yes, it would change the world.

"If" it can be placed in a car or truck...yes, I'd buy it.

"If" it came to be...ahh, I think I have a little trouble with that!

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Re: Creating a perfect generator !

04/30/2008 11:01 AM

I'd laugh at the whole idea and suggest you are only half nutz.

anything else would apparently be unprofessional of a self professed inventor.

so please..

tell me as much as you can.

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04/30/2008 11:26 AM

ok we know there have been a few changes in the last 20 years

a transformer uses changes in wire size to change the voltage

what if you added in magnets around a coil and pulsed the power in as DC do you think if you hit the right wire size and windings you could cause a increase in voltage and amperage ? some may call this a echo in the wire but it can be termed a pulse. the motor people use a diode to stop this from blowing back into the power feed.

as i see it you would have to get the circuit perfect or it would not work at all. see its all about research and finding all these parts as we all know there out there.

tesla had the right idea he loved to play he would try anything he wanted and questioned all there was around him. some how we have stopped and not done that in the last little bit. when solar came out people questioned it and still do as it is only 10 % max efficient.

with a transformer you can make the power change why is it you cannot multiply the power as well ?

food for thought as you ponder the week.

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04/30/2008 12:10 PM

The change in the size of wire in a transformer's primary and secondary windings is to carry more (if its a step down transformer) current. What changes voltage is the number of windings. A transformer with a 10:1 winding ratio will step down voltage to 1/10 of the primary winding voltage. The current will be stepped up 10 times (minus some losses) in the secondary winding. Voltage X Current = Power (For DC circuits and AC circuits with no Volt Amp Reactance = VARS)

You should really study about AC (single and three phase) and DC circuits and devices (not to mention thermodynamics, chemistry and failed perpetual motion machines) before coming up with devices that break the known laws of physics. A diode prevents the flow of current in one direction but allows it in the other. A diode in an AC circuit deletes half of the sine wave (either the positive or the negative depending on which way it is oriented in the circuit.

On the other hand if you have money but your time is too precious to waste on studying, I and many others are available for technical consultations.

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04/30/2008 5:13 PM

"a transformer uses changes in wire size to change the voltage"

News to me I thought wire sizes was to handle the current load.

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04/30/2008 11:25 PM

Dear Guest, you've raised a number of excellent points.

It's good to see that creation scientists are finally moving over into physics.

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05/05/2008 10:06 AM

i agree wholeheartedly and believe that the guest has not only brought up some excellent points but also shown us how much more effective communication can be when we dispense with the common rules of grammar punctuation and syntax it is liberating to stop thinking of people who take the bold step of defying convention in so many ways as freeking nutcases and to instead embrace their way of thinking and acting hertofore this perfect generator would simply be called a bad transformer but now liberated of rational thought we can call it not just a generator but also a nuclear reactor or a horse or a mouse it matters not in fect i am zo imboldened by thiss lign of thot that i wil not spel checque this because it feelz good so be so arogant i say if you cant figur out wat iim triing to say tough thats yer fault

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05/05/2008 3:43 PM

Yeh..but it must be true 'cos it has mangnits
It would be better with some hydrogen and springs and hinges and catnip and scantilly clad ladies...and chocolate sauce..ya gotta have chocolate sauce...and compressed air?
I'd defferably believe in it them
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05/05/2008 4:02 PM

it also most surtenly needs pineapples

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05/06/2008 1:02 AM

Hi ken fry!

defanatly not fare of yu to tri to get xtra AG anser points thsi way cuz the rst of us cant kompetewith such friggin grate ansers to whatevr it waz you wer e ansring just now in 38 thereticul GA tho very nic

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05/09/2008 2:41 AM

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05/01/2008 10:58 AM

food for thought as you ponder the week.

The week-minded?

with a transformer you can make the power change why is it you cannot multiply the power as well ?

The answer to this question is simple and obvious for someone acquainted with basic physics. If we throw away physics, and instead believe that the world operates on principles of magic, then all things are possible, at least in the mind of the believer. Reality is, after all, largely subjective.

If you wish others to share your view of the world, you will need to, at least, start with a common language, and in this forum, that language is, essentially, the language of science. You could start by publishing the results of your experiments that indicate that the laws of thermodynamics are incorrect. Once you have convinced us of that, then provide schematics of your generation system, and a clear description of how it would work, given your revised set of physics laws.

That first step, convincing us that the laws of thermodynamics are incorrect, might take you many years. Many of us have studied and applied these laws for years and years, and have found not even a hint that they are incorrect. So you, brave soldier, have your work cut out for you, if you'd like us to share your vision.

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05/05/2008 11:32 PM

tesla , westinghouse and edison all used a regular voltage not a chopped wave. if you chop the power comming in and use the magnets to bounce the voltage, amps and freq. then you can by all acounts get this to happen. the problem is not how but when will the device show into the market and what will the acceptance of the public be ?

as per your qustions about the physics and other laws this will draw into the light. who cares the world is round if you recall for a long time it was not but then one man went and did the unthinkable he proved them all wrong. think of all the new and great products we can make ! think about electric cars with no plug in. local power in local areas. no more nuclear waste no more coal all in the next year you say ? pitty to make the big change.

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05/06/2008 12:14 AM

"who cares the world is round if you recall for a long time it was not but then one man went and did the unthinkable he proved them all wrong."

Actually, it doesn't matter what you believe. Whether you believe in the Laws of Thermodynamics or not, they're true all the same. Regarding your comment above, for your information, the world has ALWAYS been round. It did not become round just because some explorer circumnavigated the globe. The reason that people originally thought it was flat was because due to its size, it looked flat unless it was seen from the top of a mountain or cliff.

As for your claim that "if you chop the power comming (by the way, the correct spelling is coming, with only 1 m) in and use the magnets to bounce the voltage, amps and freq. then you can by all acounts get this to happen", please put your money where your mouth is and prove it to everyone by creating such a device and demonstrating it to a panel of scientists, engineers and reporters, then allowing them to examine it for evidence of fraud. The very fact you can make such a claim means that you know how it's done, so there's absolutely no reason why you can't prove us all wrong by doing it. Unless you're completely wrong, that is!!!! But then again, "free energy" wackos like you always are, anyway........

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05/06/2008 7:19 AM

I have seen free energy using magnets. Yes it does work. I was at a fishing camp near the Wabash River in southwestern Indiana. The free energy device was a long orange rope with little wires inside. It was held to the side of the camper with strong horse shoe type magnets. One end of the device connected to the breaker box inside the camper. The other was attached to a 50 foot tall wooden magic wand.

Just kidding, could not resist.

Don't stop trying to do the impossible. Without modern science, who would have believed we could burn water vapors?

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05/06/2008 5:32 PM

A good first step in getting this to market would be to provide the details of the experiments you have undertaken to overturn conventional science. Good illustrations are essential. You would want to show the input wave form oscilloscope traces and the output waveform oscilloscope traces for both voltage and current. Run the output into both resistive and inductive loads, and show the differences in the traces. Measure the heat given off (or, in the case of an over-unity scam, oops, device: absorbed) by the generator, and use that as a backup indication of efficiency. When you have data such as this that can clearly describe your device, then come back and publish it here. At that time, perhaps we could comment. Until you've assembled that basic data, I, and most others here, will not be able to provide input, because we have no details to react to.

Without those details (in other words without evidence to the contrary) all we can say is that it sounds like utter gibberish. We will await your return with experimental data.

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05/06/2008 9:32 PM

ok i have to ask if you build a unit that will make more from less do you feel there is big heat ?

see this is where i was stuck as there was no heat it was just like cold fusion.

i can show you the wave forms no problem but as to useing a dump for the power there are no dumps setup to handle that freq. of power theus where the first testing was flawed. they used a resistor log at 10 amps 60 Hz. the problem was there was 5 Khz of output freq. this means things are going to take longer to heat up.

as well you have to get a meter that can handle that type of power as regular meters can no go as high as 5 plus Khz but hey you know that right ?

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05/07/2008 1:45 AM

"as well you have to get a meter that can handle that type of power as regular meters can no go as high as 5 plus Khz but hey you know that right ?"

So if you have no meter to measure the output, then how do you know you got a power gain? Also, since you claim you've carried out this experiment successfully, can you recreate it and post photos, videos and relevant data from it, as well as the data you obtained from the original experiment so that your data can be evaluated and analyzed? Better yet, can you get your project tested by a renowned testing body, then publish the data here? This is the best way to convince anyone it works.

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05/07/2008 2:05 AM

On top of that, you shouldn't need any input power, or at least after you kick it into life, as it should be self generating/governing

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05/01/2008 11:29 AM

In a transformer if you increase the voltage the amperage goes down. If you decrease the voltage the amperage goes up. The product of V*A remains constant (minus losses in efficiency, primarily heat).

You can not multiply the power. If you could you would be getting more out than you put in and that does not work.

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05/01/2008 9:46 PM

Hi, Guest!

No no! That can't be true. Some of us are using a step-up transformer to run our washing machines!

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05/02/2008 12:57 AM

are you sure you could not place magnets around a coil and get more ?

i hear it was done and some guy in the Waterloo area showed it to a prof. at Waterloo U.and they did some testing and from what i hear they got 18 Watts in and 2500 watts out ? as i hear the prof. got a number wrong and it was way more in the range of 25000 watts so maybe its time to look at a new way of thinking ?

does this mean the world was right waterloo is the smartest place on the planet ?

if this is true just think of what can be done ?

no plug in electric cars !

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05/06/2008 1:07 PM

I worked in Waterloo years back.

75% of the population was smoking some funny stuff

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05/06/2008 9:27 PM

"i hear it was done and some guy in the Waterloo area showed it to a prof. at Waterloo U.and they did some testing and from what i hear they got 18 Watts in and 2500 watts out"

I've heard that the Earth is really a flat island on the back of a gigantic turtle swimming in a colossal ocean. Does that mean it's true? I've also heard that "free energy" believers had been abducted by aliens and had neural-net processors implanted in their nether regions so that they can think up and believe in (bull)shit. Going by your own personal experience, is this true? Or have the "men-in-black" erased your mind and warned you never to talk about what never happened instead?

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04/30/2008 8:06 PM

"On the other hand if you have money but your time is too precious to waste on studying, I and many others are available for technical consultation"

Well, go ahead and do it. If your plan actually works, you'll have investors banging down your door. Don't hide behind The "guest" status, put your name to it. Put it up to public scrutiny, on this forum. We seem to be getting a wave of free energy crap here lately. Show us, prove it to us, and I'll take out a second mortgage on the Ranch to invest in it. I just don't buy the rhetoric that the government is suppressing this stuff. If you have something that actually works, investors will flock to you, and you could sell it regardless of what any government says.

If you sound like and act like an arrogant ass, you will be treated as one here, so put up or shut up.

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04/30/2008 8:43 PM

On the other hand if you have money but your time is too precious to waste on studying, I and many others are available for technical consultation"

Sorry, I meant to agree you on this statement, it didn't come out that way in my post.

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04/30/2008 11:33 PM

Please don't kill the pianist, he's just entertaining us!!!

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04/30/2008 11:25 PM

Yes, I have made such a device, I call it a paper weight.

"With no moving parts" Hmmm, interesting concept, now, the coils and magnets not moving in respect with each other, then no current is excited in the wires from the *changing* magnetic field, so having the magnets and coils there, or not having them there, you'd get the same voltage output, so, I remove the magnets, and coils, and I'm left with this nice large iron core, thus my term as "Paper weight" or, door stop if I cannot lift it up on to the bench.

The only other alternative is a ZPM, that draws its energy from subspace, but as you said, no fuel is used, so with nothing going in, and nothing going out, I still have a paper weight...

well, at least its useful ;o)

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05/01/2008 12:31 AM

It wouldn't change the laws of physics as we know it, though the laws of physics it would change we don't know.

If you do it first hire some black hawks so you can keep it.

I do think it can be done and encourage you to develop a containment field w/many black hawks prior to unveiling.

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05/01/2008 6:39 PM

Hi, Guest!

I got caught in that batch of nonsense for 15 minutes! Hilarious stuff. Thanks.

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