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06/28/2008 5:10 AM

would like to ask your advise regarding causes of concrete cracks on slab

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06/28/2008 8:53 AM

Hello batchfil

Cracks in concrete may be caused by the following:

  1. Incorrect cement ratio
  2. Poor quality cement
  3. Cement has been damp in storage (partly gone "off")
  4. Excess weight/traffic over the slab
  5. Slab loaded before curing completed
  6. Hydrostatic pressure from ground water
  7. Shrinkage whilst curing
  8. Failure to allow expansion joints
  9. Refer (4) above alternative - failure to place diamond saw cuts after 7 days, if expansion joints not used (Controlled cracks take place at the saw cuts)
  10. Insufficient curing time (Normal is 28 day as minimum)
  11. Too much water in the concrete mix
  12. Insufficient water for curing
  13. Dirty water used to mix the concrete
  14. Too many fine aggregates
  15. Not enough fine aggregates
  16. Incorrect proportions of aggregates
  17. Curing time too fast
  18. Curing heat too great, the slab needed extra cooling while curing
  19. Insufficient or incorrect steel reinforcing
  20. Expansion caused by rusting reinforcing steel
  21. Incorrect additives - (fast Cure materials)
  22. Setting in presence of seawater
  23. Setting the concrete on a dry absorbent base - (Sucks out curing water too fast)
  24. Additional improper rock = crushed Limestone as aggregate
  25. Beach Sand (salt inclusion) problem
  26. Beach Sand (rounded grains) problem
  27. Insufficient vibration during and after concrete placement
  28. Too much vibration, during and after concrete placement

There are many other causes of cracks in concrete slabs, but those are the most logical, and come to immediate mind.

Advise location, age of slab, size of slab, thickness of slab, aggregate used, cement brand and type, mix proportions, type of water used, and further details.

A photo or several, as large as possible (left click on the uploaded picture to CR4 Forum, at a corner, and "stretch the picture, so it stays in proportion"), with a calibrated ruler alongside the cracks would assist with remote diagnosis, by CR4 Members.

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06/28/2008 9:33 AM

Hi Sparkstation

You deserve 28 GA votes, I have done my duty with one.

I was considering posting but would have forgotten about at least 20 reasons.

Just to conclude (on the vibration) not to little , not to much but just right.

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06/28/2008 12:41 PM

And that was shooting from the hip!

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06/29/2008 9:24 PM

Please add No 29. Poorly prepared subgrade under slab.

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06/30/2008 7:43 PM

Hello eriew

Appreciate your #29 addition to my above quick reply re causes of concrete slab failure.

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07/06/2008 6:30 AM

1. incorrect cement ratio to what? water:cement ratio? water:cement ration affects the strength and workability of concrete. the lesser the water the more strength on concrete but lower workability. we ussually apply additives to improve the workability of concrete.

2. slab loaded before curing completed - in practice, specially building construction, three days after concreting the slab, preparation for the construction of columns, beams & slabs on the next level will commence while curing is on-going. it is very impractical to wait to complete the curing period before you proceed to the next. this will cause delay on construction. to avoid any damage or cracks on newly poured concrete, additional supports will be installed on the soffit to decrease the span length of the structures specially on beams. take note that on any formula for computing the moment, moment load is directly proportional to the span length. the lesser the span, the lesser the moment load. may we say that insufficient temporary supports on the newly concrete slab will cause cracks.

3. too many fine aggregates - how about the plastering? it is a mixture of cement, sand and water. cracks oocured on plastering is due to thermal or wrong methodology of application. therefore, too many fine aggregates is invalid reason.

4. curing time too fast - another invalid reason. in practice, we ussually apply additives to speed-up the curing of concrete. sometimes we use different types of cement (type 3, 4 or 5, i forgot which type). rapid setting of concrete is one of the cause on cement cracks. clinker is already a cement, we add gypsum to slow down the setting of concrete not the beach sand. rounded aggregates is invalid reason. aggregates on river quarry is rounded. aggregates produced from crusher is angular.

what kind of slab you are reffering to? reinforced concrete or plain concrete? your question is very broad.

5. beach sand - using beach sand causes corrosion of steel, corrosion of steel causes the cracks on the slab.

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07/07/2008 6:04 AM

Hello batchfil

You don't seem to have replied to the request for additional information.

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07/08/2008 4:14 AM

That fellow is right, you must be corrected or else we are feeding wrong informations. And one thing more, this is a discussion. You must accept their comments if your are wrong. They are speaking according to their knowledge and experiences. The only thing I can say to his/her comments, they are scrambled on the last part (from #4 to #5). As an engineer, I understand what he/she is saying. Please rearange your comments in order to understand for the non-technical people. Thank you.

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