Computer shuts off at the SAME POINTS during load

Im interest.

I hve also old one computer which has same problem. when load win98, it shuts off.

after move ram, it can enter msdos. if I try to enter win step by step, it shuts off again.

the system is good, neednt reload. Im curious.

btw, although usb interface is a hot plug, but you'd better do as pop up promotion of youcan take away the usb.

I also wish to see more hlep.

Thank you.

I hvnt ever used this command. is it an overlay update?

I shall try it in this holiday.

I try and find no such command in win98 or 98se.

setupcor?

It happened to me when I had two RAM chips of different standard on neighbouring slots. It would restart the PC whenever the chips would reach a given amount of space occupied, so I was told by the service.

Once I put identical two chips in the slots, I never had this problem again.

However, a spontaneous restart of the PC can occur, when the CPU-fan in stopped, or it's not functioning properly, and the CPU temperature reach a threshold temperature which the built-in sensors command it to shut-down. Since that command is not backed by the motherboard. the PC may go into a series of restart cycles, every time this high temperature is high enough for the CPU sensor to flag.

Some earlier board support only powers of 2 times chips number, like 64, 128, 256 etc. once you use some number like 96 etc. some thing wrong will ocured.

If you use different brand or type chips, they have different access speed and time. that will lead to addressing error. This issue willl be overcome by entering CMOS to setup time parameters to comply with the slowest chips. or add more waiting time in otder that you can access your all dram with enough refresh time.

CPU heating is an important problem espeicailly AMD processor. this made me have to change a large fan in the past.

today market, you will find various kinds of fan, bewildering, my god, especially, hot tube type. vey beautiful and delux. which cn be use for CPU and GPU.

too fast tech develop to follow.

Thanks cnpower,

Do you have some internet link to this 'hot tube' type of cooling ?

may be heat tube? hot pipe, heat pipe ? I gorget how to spell. its not a new thing, but begine with space tech. now often use in industry. I also use it for our porduct.(of cause larger than on the computer)

its a tube (pipe) with a special liquid recycle in it to carry heat from one terminal to another side. this recycle is auto by the heat itself withut any other power. it has a higher heat exchange efficiency

it should be heat pipe.

heat pipe tech.

Maybe what cnpower mean like at this link:

www.shopping.com/xPP-system_cooling--cpu_gpu_water_cooling_system

www.bizrate.com/systemcooling/thermaltake-tide-water-vga-colling-system--pid448308905/

First what you should do --- unplug your USB harddrive.

It's worst case which could take place ever. Your USB on-chip controller has gone and has taken your mother board. USB devices are using crucial for MB 5V power supply, so it's a reason of MB dead so often, especially when users plug in their USB gadgets into additional PC's front panel sockets. I do consider these sockets' connection to USB controller as unreliable.

My advice to you and others to use onboard USB sockets only, regardless it could be not suitable to reach ones on rear side of PC. I do use USB-hub which equipped an independent 5V power supply. To use good made USB cable with reliable shield contacts is the option as well. External hard drives have a significant power consumption. Most of them have independent power supply for AC 230/110V outlet, but users are recklessly bored to apply its being then cryed out of their lovely late PCs.

Nevertheless here's yet a hope to repair your MB. At least its has passed some of initial tests, so its hopefully might be recovered. Died USB controller would be replaced by another one for PCI slot further.

Do not lose a hope.

"I move on getting my external harddrive plugged in and I realize one of the USB sockets isn't working"

Try to unplug the harddrive first then turn on, if it's ok so the problem come from harddrive or maybe your power supply si overloaded, if still shut down try to:

"Sure enough the USB cable is only half in so I push it all the way in (no I didn't brake or accidently unplug anything)"

unplug the USB cable and see what happen next.

If after disconnecting the USB cable, the box still will not boot. Remove the MB's CMOS battery and let the CMOS memory clear. On an ASUS board, that could take up to several hours of time for the CMOS memory voltage level to fall to the point it clears its registers.

Alternately, some MBs have a "clear CMOS jumper" on them. Check and see if it has such a jumper. The jumper does the same thing as removing the battery, just saves time.

Put the CMOS battery, or jumper, back as per normal, and try it again. Some boards have been known to freeze during POST after USB changes. Mind you I have not seen this for awhile though.

Other things to try... re-seat the RAM and the processor and video card. Do not rely on the phase change compound on the bottom of the CPU heat sink if you do unseat the sink from the CPU. Remove the compound from the CPU and sink and use a good grade of silver based CPU heat compound and reinstall the sink.

My son's computer did the same thing. It turned out that he had too much RAM. From what he told me, 32 bit Windows XP can only handle a certain amount of RAM (I think something like 2 gig or less). When more RAM is present, Windows becomes confused.

I know, this does not seem like this makes sense, but removing some RAM solved his problem.

Tad

I have a similar problem with an ASUS board. I have a USB hub attached to one of the board ports. If I have anything live on the hub at boot up the system stops at the ASUS splash screen. I also have a case with two front USB ports. If anything is plugged into them the same thing happens.

I have no reply from ASUS as to whether or not they think this a a board problem.

Hi,

try this out, it might work.

1) Remove one of the ram from slots and then start.

2) If your power input rating ( smps ) doesnot match the required than it may result. you may try removing of floppy drive etc if over loaded.

3) Remove and reconnect all the connections just to ensure all there are no lose contacts .

thats it .

With Regards,

Shivakumar

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Good post Bill.

I would also boot the system into "Safe Mode" and see if the problems persist there.

Strange I don't recall seeing if anyone suspected a virus.

L.J.

Well a Virus "could" be the cause of the problem. But from Guest's post its not even P.O.S.Ting so he would never get to the OS to use safe mode.

But now if he clears the CMOS and it boots I would for sure be running Adware, Spybot, AVG and housecall by trendmicro. There are viruses out there that re-write your CMOS chip.

I probably should have mentioned that earlier. But I am running on about 4 hours sleep and I got a bad case of "The Mondays"

bill12780

Well.... Bill You have beat me to give probably the perfect approach to solve any suspected hardware problem. So my GA for your post.

I believe what you say about 80286 era. I too am a person who started fiddling with computer hardware since XT & AT days. It certainly has come a long way since that time!

My first computer experience was in punch card run IBM machine at the Uni and that was the latest during that period. So you can guess how old I am!

If you have SP3 installed there was an issue with AMD processors. I don't know if Microsoft has fixed this yet. Unfortunately to fix this un-install SP3 is what they say. Hard to un-install something if it won't boot.

You can boot from the Microsoft OS install disk and when it sees an existing OS installed on the hard drive, it will say so and ask if you wish to repair or overwrite that installation.

It will caution you that all information on that disk will be lost.

Select OK and it will start from scratch if you wish with a new partition and with options for low level formatting. Then it will install the new OS.

It's a little time consuming but very effective.

L.J.

Which AMD processors ? any links on that problem ?

Thanks Garth

I think your all missing the point here (not to be rude, just could not think of another way of putting it. Sorry)

But if he can not make it past the Power-On-Self-Test or the POST screen were the memory is checked and drives are identified. He will Never make it to the OS so SP3 wont be the issue.

This is why I said he almost for sure has a hardware issue and not a software issue. Because at this point the only software being loaded is the firmware from the CMOS Chip.

The only other thing he could try before condemning the Motherboard is some Asus boards have a "Crash-Free" system that you can make a floppy with a copy of the BIOS file on it. You put the floppy in and hold alt-F2 has you turn the machine on. It forces a BIOS update. But this will only work if the Boot section of the CMOS is ok. (check the manual for more details)

So "guest" you could try that has a last resort.

bill12780

Hello:

You have big trouble. First you must make diferences between hardware or software fail.At your Star MBoard was working ok, Harware ok ,al load Win XP, later you get a software fail.

Its seem to be Power initialization or Virus.Try this:Change the power supply for a stardard one and use integrated video of the MBoard, be sure that dont have problems with the power supply.Use the minimum of load, no HD, NO Front USB no Floppy No External Video card

Virus? Yes Test al your CD´s media used, including pen drive, external Hdisk try to find the origin. May be you have a virus on BIOS now.

At Start up of your PC use a video camara to recorder the information on display, sometimes apear data that you didn ´t see. Can Help You.

Use only one DIMM, usualy is the slot 3 in the first to use.

Try to arrive to use de bios Configuration menu at startup. F2 or F8 or F11. Your PC make some Beeps?

An helpfull tool is a CD called Hiren's BootCD, get from internet, with all you need for set up new computers, H Disk, and more utilities

Its a Warez software that have Free software, abandonware al parts of MS-DOS.

The last Option Is test your computer parts in another computer.

Good luck

I have had a slightly similar problem. I have an external HDD plugged into my system, and if I try to boot when the USB cable is not plugged into the hard drive, the system hangs on booting. It is acting like the BIOS is being told to boot from that drive first if possible, and when the computer recognizes that there is no drive connected to the cable, it just stalls. Although I have not done extensive testing to make sure it is only the need to have the drive plugged in, it will not stall if the drive is plugged in but not powered up. Very strange.

This sounds like a serious BIOS bug, and should be reported to the motherboard supplier. Most BIOS menus these days allow for boot up sequence to include system upload from an external drive be it floppy, CD, IDE, SATA, or USB source, but once the designated object is not loaded, it should automatically jump to the next-in-line.

Only once all possible sources were scanned and reported invalid, should the system halt (never hang!) - with a proper report such as "No system boot source available" or something to that effect

I also got the HP's laptop with same symptoms. All PC goes really hot. I opened that, to clean cooler area from dust. I was correct - it was like big black "Tampax" between fan and cooling ribs. I cleaned that, but it doesn't help much. I found that processor is extremely hot (I can't even touch it), but the other side is absolutely cool. Heat pipe have to transfer this heat away from processor, but it doesn't. I put temporary cooler to the top of processor, and it works now... But it can't stay like this, with open keyboard and cooler on top of processor... But, is it really possible, thet Heat-pipe stops to work one nice sunny day? Is this liquid inside become really so hot and expand 'til blowing up? R.S.V.P. Madis madis25(at)gmail(dot)com