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How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/10/2009 5:39 PM

Im using a square D 120VAC latching relay in a circut to isolate an alarm signal. most alarms on the systems i work with self reset once the right conditions are met. I need the alarm to stay tripped until a technician can arrive onsite to better understand why the system went down. once identified a reset button can be pushed to reset the alarm circut. The relay shows a reset on pin 8 to pin B. The relay is part # 8501KL12V20 and uses socket # 5B583. Your help is much appreciated.

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/10/2009 9:32 PM

Can you provide a schematic diagram? Square D/Schneider's website shows only a photo of the relay. Downloadable PDFs are only of certifications -- not of much use to the designer!

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/11/2009 12:30 PM

I couldn't find any schematics either but i do have the relay in front of me. The base is an 11 pin base where only 9 pins are utilized. Pin "A" is the Com pin where the neutral goes. Pin "B" is the "Latch" and they use pin "8" as the reset.Diodes connect from Pin "B" to pin "8". Its a DPDT relay ( double pole double throw). First pole is on pin "7" with pin "4" as NO and pin "1" as NC. the second pole is on pin "9" with pin "6" as NO and pin "3" as NC. I hope this helps...

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/11/2009 12:52 PM

Here's the relay schematic:

The diagram is on page 30 in this document.

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/12/2009 10:35 AM

That's a nice link provided thanks!

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/11/2009 1:26 PM

My guess is that you momentarily apply 120 VAC to Pin B to latch the relay, and momentarily apply 120 VAC to Pin 8 to reset it. The internal latching mechanism operates on (pulsating) DC and so SQD has conveniently included rectifier diodes so that you don't have to supply the DC yourself. The resistor is required probably because it takes less juice to reset the relay (0.8 VA) than to latch it (2.0 VA).

Take care not to touch the unused (latch or reset) pin when applying power to the other pin. The unused pin will be "live" (pulsating DC) so long as power is applied to its counterpart.

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/11/2009 6:16 PM

Thanks! I'll give it a try and see how it works

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

04/16/2009 10:52 PM

can you help me i am trying to wire one of these relays up to change polarity of my 12vdc motor it is like a linear actuator i have a 12 vdc motor a screw shaft a nut and 2 moving table for my curing oven the wall timer kicks on runs the tables down hits a limit switch kicks off i need relay to change direction when motor stops in 1 hour timer kicks on hopefully in oposite direction ccw runs home hits limit switch kicks off again waits another hour then starts over again when i wire the relay in it kicks on runs motor when it hits limit switch stops only when the timer kicks off then will not come back on i think it blows a fuse in the walwart because i changed walwart and it works again until limit switch kicks it off an the timer kicks off then it quit again i will try to explain the wirring diagram

(2)120 volts ac out of timer to coil, i wire common wire from walwart to top left and 3rd one down on right, then wire 12v out of walwart to the 2 commons on 2 limit switches, i wire the 2 that are the second row to motor, i wire top right to the n/c on bottom limit switch, and 3rd down on left to n/c on top limit switch i will try to send you rough drawing if needed thank you for looking

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

04/17/2009 8:18 PM

Hello Guest

Below is a diagram for what you are trying to do using (1) timer & 4 cheaper relays.

If you have any questions please reply.

Hope this helps.

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/12/2009 5:55 AM

A simple way is to energize a relay coil when the circuit goes into alarm. Utilize this relay's normally closed contact in the alarm line, which will keep the circuit open until de-energized. AKA "lock-out relay". This requires no electronics.

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01/12/2009 7:22 AM

Actually, once you have lactheed the relay into alarm. Most lacthing relays can be reset manually. So you don't have to provide an electrically controlled reset if the technician is trained how to reset the relay.

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/12/2009 10:28 AM

Your latching relay would probably look more like the below. The above would work for a standard relay. You could use another set of contacts on the realy to inhibit start or whatever until the alarm is worked out as well.

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/12/2009 10:56 AM

Hi JOSHYB

Europium's posts to how your latching relay operates are correct!

In your original post you said: most alarms on the systems i work with self reset once the right conditions are met.

Are you just trying to correct an oversite in the current system(s) to make it/them safer or just to allow your technician time to assess the alarm cause?

Are you going to use a seperate relay for each possible alarm 'type' to try to pin-point the 'area/system part' that caused the alarm or just latch a general alarm circuit to prevent the operator(s) from restarting the system until the technician arrives?

This is just curiosity on my part as there may be alternate solutions to your problem.

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Re: How to wire a 120VAC square D latching relay

01/12/2009 3:04 PM

joshyb; i belive there is a magnet in you relay that holds it closed when plused with the operating voltage, the (alarm) & released when pulsed the reset, reversing the magnatic field of the relay coil. perry

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