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Step-Up Voltage Via Transformer to Synchronise HT / LT DG

03/23/2009 8:21 PM

Dear all Gurus,

In of my Glass container production plants,i hv 2 set of Disel generation system. 1 set - comprise of 12 units of 1500kva LT 415V system run in parrallel mode and 1 set comprise of 4 units of 1000kva HT (3300v) system also run in parallel mode for HT motors. and feeding to my LT and HT system.

Can i use a step down and step up transformer with the capacity of 1500kva to 'assits' couple and synchronise each system (vice-versa or versa-vice) during either one of my HT or LT DG breakdown or under repair etc.

So what are the control and proctection parameter i need to consider ?

Thank you very much and Best Regards

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Re: Step up voltage via transformer to synchronise HT/LT DG

03/24/2009 1:55 AM

There are no technical problem. Infact all the power stations do it (11KV generator output to say 400KV grid)

The protections will be usual and you need the synchronisation and other controls as mentioned in earlier thread.

I will wait till others join in (seems to be only me talking to you )

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Re: Step up voltage via transformer to synchronise HT/LT DG

03/24/2009 2:40 PM

Yes, you can synchronize either in 415V side or 3300V side or both side using tie-breaker(s). The tie breaker(s) should have the sufficient capacity (current rating, short circuit rating etc.). It should have short circuit (50/51) and other protections such as under voltage (27), ground fault (50/51G) etc. The synchronization can be done either automatically by a synchronizer or manually by synchronoscope and other sync-check relays. The option for synchronization could be Dead-Dead, Deal-Live, Live-Dead and Live-Live conditions. Doing all these things needs lot of engineering works. The existing load sharing system also needs to be integrated for both sides through the tie-breaker(s).

The tie-breakers control should have at least the following items:

Synchronizer (for automatic synchronization),

Synchronoscope,

Sync lights,

Dead-bus relays,

CTs/PTs,

Feeder protection relay (such as Multilin SR 750),

Lock out relay,

Voltmeters/Ammeters,

Manual/Auto sync switch,

Breaker Open/Close switch

- MS

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Re: Step up voltage via transformer to synchronise HT/LT DG

03/25/2009 5:32 AM

I agree to above point. Specific synchronization eqquipment is normally required to synchronize groups of generators across bus-couplers circuit breakers, since the generators set notmally allows synchronizing across the generator circuit breaker only.

Is "bus-tie breaker" just a different name to "bus-coupler circuit breaker" or they are different?

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Re: Step-Up Voltage Via Transformer to Synchronise HT / LT DG

03/25/2009 7:28 PM

Aikhh,

My understanding is that you have 2 busses : one at 415 V fed by 12 generators, each of them 1.5 MVA and a second bus at 3300 V, fed by 4 generators, each of them 1 MVA. You try to interconnect these 2 busses via a 1.5 MVA 3300/415V transformer (and at least 2 breakers: bus1 - transformer in and bus2 - transformer out). If one of the generators has to be taken off-line, the power it delivered to its bus shall be compensated from a power influx from the other bus (via transformer).

To synchronize 2 busses implies the same voltage, frequency and in-phase.

If the 2 busses are operational (hot) they might have the same frequency and the same voltage (via transformer and generator voltage regulators), but there may be a phase (time) difference and the synchronization process can be rough, especially if the difference at that moment happens to be 180 deg (max). Usually that difference is eliminated by slightly modifying the frequency.

As I see it, you may have one of the busses hot (all contributing generators are in parallel and feeding that bus) but to synchronize the second bus you would have to start the other generators one at a time ( each of them has to be synchronized individually) till all are connected in parallel to bus 2 (which is connected in parallel to bus 1 via transformer)

The synchronization procedure is basically the one described in MS response.

The regulation of the power flow between the 2 busses has also to be addressed, since there is a limitation at 1.5 MVA (the proposed transformer).

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Re: Step-Up Voltage Via Transformer to Synchronise HT / LT DG

04/05/2009 2:56 AM

Yes. You can synchronize the system.

dhayanandhan.s,

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