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Metal Cylinders and Thermodynamics

07/27/2009 9:30 PM

a metal cylinder is fitted with a frictionless piston of mass 10kg. an additional 150kg is placed on the piston. barometer indicates 760mm of HG. calculate gauge pressure and absolute pressure of gas in cylinder. the area of the piston is 0.2m square.

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07/27/2009 9:36 PM

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07/27/2009 9:43 PM

hmmm...i didnt want an answer.i just wanted to know how to go about doing it . like guidelines or formulas. i don't need answers

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07/27/2009 9:48 PM

OK, this a simple gas law problem.

Google gas laws.

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Re: question on thermodynamics

07/27/2009 9:53 PM

i thought it was more on the equation of P abs = P atm + P g ?

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07/27/2009 10:07 PM

Continue.

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07/27/2009 10:12 PM

yea. so , using the equation above , i can only fill in the value of P atm which is 1 or 101.3 kPa. is there any other equation i should use also ?

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07/28/2009 6:15 AM

waynetan

This has little or nothing to do with thermodynamics. It's simply a case of dividing force by area to get pressure. It doesn't matter whether it's gas or liquid, what the temperature is, or whether the changes are adiabatic or isothermal. These things affect the final volume, but not the pressure.

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07/28/2009 7:54 AM

Right on spot. Got mislead by topic. Yes the type of compresson has got nothing to do at it at this level. It is basic physics and not thermodynamics.

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07/28/2009 1:13 AM

thermo is all about setting up your condition states. Determine State 1 Condition: m1=10kg, P1=760mm Hg, V1=0.2m square. Do the same for State 2. Then, solve for the missing variable (Hint, its P2 and Pabs=P2 + 760mm Hg). Drawing a picture of both state always helps..

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07/28/2009 2:10 AM

You have the force you have the area and you have DVader What else do you need for this calculation?

Of course it is not mentioned the process is adiabatic/isothermal/isentropic/ isenthalpic so that portion may be assumed, to be isothermal for simplicity.

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Re: Metal Cylinders and Thermodynamics

07/28/2009 4:57 PM

I love it when a forum is "self-correcting".

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