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Preserving Freshly Cut Lumber Permanently

08/26/2009 12:24 AM

Amazing or what? I watched an Ash furniture maker chain saw a 3 inch thick slice from a large tree which had recently been felled. I helped him lift the heavy circle across and on to a couple of saw benches for support. Rough as its surface was, he commenced to brush on his first coat of cedar oil based petri-wood, then we sat around for about fifteen minutes. He then applied his second coat and again we waited until he finally applied his third coat. During the third application, I noticed the product had started to drip through the bottom side of the wood. We then went off to have a coffee from his flask and about forty minutes later, we went back to the wood and he asked me to lift it off the saw horses by myself. I lifted the large slice without trouble and it seemed to now be a fraction of the original weight. It was explained to me that the petri-wood fluid contained a water scavenger which when applied to wood, instantly turns all inbound moisture to ethenol gas and it evaporates harmlessly. The product continues all the way through the wood leaving it not only dry, but also in its first stage of wood petrification, permanently protected against all types of rot, fungal decay, moisture, mildew, mould, attack by water and all types of wood destroying insects. He also advised me that the fluid also stops the wood from warping, cupping or splitting and that it was now saving him so much time where he had to wait for felled trees to dry and season. Now he can work with the lumber knowing it has been fully preserved even before he places a tool near it. This stuff is truly amazing and I have now obtained three 5 gallon tubs for myself, purchased on line from cedarshield.ca If you have not tried or used this stuff and you work with wood you would like to last a very long time, then go get some and see for yourself. Does anyone out there know of anything better that is also all natural and organic?

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08/26/2009 4:01 AM

I wouldn't use anything like that, but I can see the advantages if you need a quick turn around of big sizes of timber.
I only use small logs for bow making which I season naturally or with a little help from a radiator.
We are all in a rush these days....my bow staves which I cut last year will be ready in the spring, and over winter I shall harvest/scavenge/appropriate some more.
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08/26/2009 9:15 AM

Hi Del,

I guess I haven't been here long enough to know about your bows. Sounds like you're a regular boyer, so for which army do you manufacture all these weapons, or do you just have a large family?

Do you make your own arrows as well?

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08/26/2009 9:38 AM

Blimey! Click on my user name and scroll down to Threads & Blogs entries by Del the Cat, there is loads of bow stuff (Del's Archery adventures), the Chinese Repeating crossbow is worth a look, there's a video somewhere...(linked at the foot of this blog)
I assemble arrows from bought components, wooden shafts, points, fletchings.
I sold my last bow...but mostly I just build stuff for the fun of it.
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08/26/2009 11:37 PM

We sued steel pipes of different sizes and stream to make ribs for wooden boats that was a real pain espically if we used wooden dowel and pine tar/ bees wax mix to seal the slats. They will twist if left to long in the pipe and warp if they got too wet.

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08/26/2009 6:53 AM

I have a half-attic that goes to about 125F in the summer. Small quantities dry nicely in a couple months up there. I wouldn't use add-ons either.

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08/26/2009 11:35 PM

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is..... There's just a bit too much hype on the website for "cedarshield and Petriwood" for my tastes.

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08/27/2009 12:28 AM

Hey Ed....it may sound like hype to you but these natural fluids are already taking America by storm and their pest control fluid is now the only one officially recommended by the US Federal Government for use by our troops overseas. Their Best Yet product is now killing bed bugs in many major US cities and it does it in only seven seconds, together with dissolving the eggs and larvae too. Out of all the 800 plus DEET products on the market, none of them can achieve this. So basically, if like me you go on and read some of the numerous independent reports available on their Petri-Wood and other products, you will realize that in this case it is in fact 'good to be true.' Two of our major Universities have stated after testing that Petri-wood is the best and most effective product to hit the lumber industry in the past century.

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08/27/2009 10:49 AM

Arimel -- OK; I'll be open minded about this stuff. I might even buy some to investigate its properties. But just because a product is selling well doesn't mean it's any good. There are just too many Americans (like me) ready to buy and try new stuff for sales volume to be a reliable endorsement.

Anybody know the details of those two university tests (I haven't searched the subject myself as yet)?

An interesting experiment would to be to cut a some pieces from a green log of our coast live oak (a northern California tree whose wood rots pretty fast), treat half of them and then plant treated and control samples in the ground in a location where termites are active.

Another good experiment would be to cut pieces of various local woods like in my area live oak, madrone, bay laurel, douglas fir, toyon and maple to exact dimensions, treat them in a controlled experiment and measure properties like density, moisture content and physical dimensions both before and after.

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08/27/2009 10:09 AM

Smells a bit fishy to me too. I can't think of anything that will go through 3 inches of wood in about an hour unless it's on fire.

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08/27/2009 10:41 AM

I can't think of anything that will go through 3 inches of wood in about an hour.
Beaver on a stick?
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08/27/2009 10:45 AM

Now if you could just train them to make bows.

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08/27/2009 9:55 PM

Have you ever tried using a 4 inch nail ?

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08/27/2009 12:47 AM

Shouldn't this thread be in commercial space?

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08/27/2009 4:39 AM

No, if this old boy has cut out years of time seasoning, removed all the problems of splitting, warping etc, and still has coffee in a vacuum flask when he should be able to afford an on site restaurant, it isn't commercial, anyway he will die pretty soon as anything that will dissolve bedbug eggs and larvae is going to make short work of a mere human.

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08/27/2009 5:05 AM

Definitely not commercial, the log is apparently oozing pounsd of ethanol gas into the atmosphere and they go off and drink coffee. That is commercial suicide, this is the ultimate moonshine still and they are wasting it. How stupid can you get?

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08/27/2009 11:42 AM

You can coat wood with flouride for pest it is a posion used in pesticides

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08/27/2009 4:44 PM

Huh?

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08/27/2009 5:08 PM

My sentiments exactly.

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08/27/2009 5:11 PM

And so ????????

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08/27/2009 7:15 PM

OK. Guest/king-furniture. Tell us your sad story about why you had to sink to the level of spamming an engineering/technical forum consisting of people too cheap to pay for their engineering work and/or so gullible and good hearted that they give it away for free (as if any of it was worth any more than what the recipients had to pay for it).

Is your family surviving on Ramen noodles and you are sneaking around on garbage night taking old newspapers out of recycling bins to use for toilet paper? Have you finally given up on filling out applications for mortgage relief and concluded that all that was left was to search for that last person in the Western world that could still afford a kitchen remodel?

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08/28/2009 5:27 AM

Bad day my friend?

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08/28/2009 10:39 AM

For the first time since I've been on the forum, I reported a posting as abuse. I reported the King Furniture posting to the CR4 Gods and they deemed the posting to be commercial in nature and yanked it. It was a rather bizarre posting, not at all related to this thread except for the assumption that perhaps kitchen cabinets are also made of wood.

And since wood floats, she must be a witch ! oops, sorry.

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08/28/2009 11:28 AM

Kudos to you, Sir ....Ed Weldon

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08/28/2009 11:36 AM

Not to me, to the CR4 moderators. They have a system in place, and it works. My hats off to the folks who operate and maintain this site.

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08/29/2009 3:34 AM

totally agree, damn fine work, just like the kitchen refurbishments I specialise in, if you are bored with your old kitchen..............oops sorry

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