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Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/28/2009 6:23 AM

I have a 9kw pumps 380volts 3phase.The contactor is DOL 110vac supply voltage. 1 case one of the pole in contactor is burnt out and i changed a new one, after a month it happen again. What could be the possible cause of this burnt out?

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Re: burnt out....

10/28/2009 7:22 AM

Overcurrent in that particular phase.

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Re: burnt out....

10/28/2009 7:55 AM

burnt out; the 110 volts may go lower when pump starts, causing the contactor to chatter. perry

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Re: burnt out....

10/28/2009 8:30 AM

Loose connection somewhere down the line to the pump.
Should change all contacts at same time as well as any mounting hardware or springs if applicable.
Inspect wire condition for good clean connections.

For starters.

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/28/2009 4:39 PM

May be an idea to check the rating of the contactor,the AC3 rating.

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/29/2009 7:29 AM

Yes check the contactor rating, also if pump is starting and stopping a lot the rating should be higher than for one which runs continuously

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/29/2009 10:06 AM

It's the same leg all the time, right?

Weak coil, or slight warping in the contactor housing not allowing the contactor points to close all the way on that side.

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/29/2009 12:17 PM

It's likely to be the high (perhaps sutained for a while) start-current of a motor downstream of the contactor.

This happens frequently in high starting-inertia applications such as rock crushing in mines and gravel pits.

At the very least, put in a soft-starter with a long-enough "soft-start" period. We put in an Integra unit manufactured by Somars, which completely solved one of our customers' similar problems. Integra units have soft-start capabilities, but they're much more than soft starters ... they're specialized computers that can be configured to both protect motors and to increase energy efficiency.

http://www.somar.co.uk/energy-saving-technology/Integra-motor-control.php

The starter on a rock crusher kept burning out at weekly intervals, which meant shutting down a crusher, filing (shaving) the starter contacts, and running the crusher for another week. Now, the contactor doesn't burn out any more.

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/30/2009 12:26 AM

The pump is 9KW 380V 3 phase but your DOL starter is 110Vac supply voltage ????Are you sure???How can you start the motor???

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/30/2009 1:03 AM

Probably read contactor coil control voltage??

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/30/2009 10:40 AM

you are correct. 110Vac is the contactor coil voltage.

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/30/2009 2:42 PM

Possible causes

1) Loose connection

2) Incorrect contactor sizing

3) Incorrect coil voltage (Low Voltage)

4) If there is dirt on the face of the moving metal parts on the contactor. it will chatter... and possibly cause this..

this is also true if the eddy current ring on these metal plates is missing

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/30/2009 11:05 PM

Did you check all 3 supply legs to the motor? You may have a dead leg and the other 2 legs are drawing excessive current. edmund

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Re: Contactor Fails Repeatedly

10/31/2009 5:30 AM

For premature failures like that, usual cause is insects: earwigs, spiders, and such. Assuming open contactors, mind you. If open, try to replace with enclosed contactors unit.

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