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Compressed Gas Turbines and Hydraulic Motors

11/05/2009 2:53 PM

Between a compressed gas turbine and a hydraulic motor, which is the most efficient, percentagewise?

Take a body of compressed gas (the most efficient kind of gas, whatever that might be, eg, air, nitrogen, or whatever) and a body of compressed hydraulic fluid (the most efficient kind of hydraulic fluid, whatever that might be, eg, water, oil, or whatever), connect both the hydraulic motor and the gas turbine to electrical generators - which one would produce the most power, given inexhaustible supplies of the compressed substances to feed the turbine and the motor respectively?

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Re: Compressed Gas Turbines and Hydraulic Motors

11/05/2009 7:12 PM

The significant difference between a pneumatic system and a hydraulic system if the effective compressability of the working fluid; pneumatic systems using a compressable gas and hydraulic systems using a relatively incompressable liquid.

As there are stated no restrictions on the design, and no requirements for variations in required power, it should be easier to design a more efficient system that uses a relatively incompressable working fluid vs. a compressable one.

Since a compressable fluid is absorbs enegry from the system when it is compressed, the amount of energy converted to heat (and the fraction thereof lost from the system without performing usedful work) is more significamt than with a relatively incompressable fluid (with relatively little energy being wasted in that fashion). This should be the dominant factor, since other friction losses (throttling, piping,etc) are made trivial by the lack of specificty in the op's hypothetical.

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Re: Compressed Gas Turbines and Hydraulic Motors

11/06/2009 3:14 AM

Thermodynamically, neither system would match the efficiency of modern power stations using the water/steam system as the energy transfer fluid. Which is sort-of-why it isn't done in those places.

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Re: Compressed Gas Turbines and Hydraulic Motors

11/06/2009 9:24 AM

the eficcency in thermal equipment is about 90% or more, in hidraulic equipment is already 80%, but the seleccion depend of energy you have available, cost equipment, easily instalation and other considerations

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Re: Compressed Gas Turbines and Hydraulic Motors

11/06/2009 10:56 AM

Some water turbines are over 90% efficient. Steam turbines around 40%, and gas turbines--higher temp & pressure-- 60%. Compressed air is more efficient then thermal, but maybe not as much as water.

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