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Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 10:11 AM

We have a vessel subject to pitting and crevice corossion due to the occassional presence of chlorides. A weld overlay is used to build up areas where the corossion allowance has been used up. Is there some kind of mechanical or chemical treatment that can be used in areas that still have a portion of the corossion allowance available that might slow down or mitigate the corossion during future chloride excusions ?

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 10:54 AM

What is the vessel made of?

What is in the vessel? Its temperature and pressure?

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 1:14 PM

Material is 317L ss. Fluid is 70-90 wt% acetic acid in water. Temperature is 305 F at 30 psig. Function a distillation column seperating acetic acid and water. Corossion occurs when chlorides enter system due to cooling water leaking into tower.

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 1:16 PM

Have you given thought into lining (wallpapering) the vessel?

How complicated/big is the vessel? How many nozzles? .....

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 1:29 PM

......... and just to make sure you understand - "wallpapering" means welding inside thin sheets of a more corrosion resistant metal to completely line the vessel.

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 2:33 PM

Yes we are considering it.

I was just curious if some kind the surface treatment (polishing, shot peaning, etc.) would remove pits before they become sites for future attack during the next chloride excursion.

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 5:25 PM

No, because the pits are so eratic - they are not always "open valleys" and often tunnel in between the two surfaces so you can't even see them. You would be grinding away so much metal that you be beyond ANY hope of safe pressure containment. The only VERY SLIM chance of any success would be to pickle and passivate, however, because it wouldn't remove the pits - there would still be crevice corrosion conditions and negate the effects in those very local spots.

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 5:28 PM

.............. but I guess I will mention it for the sake of mentioning it ............. I have never done it but I have heard of urban legends/myths/dreamers thermal spraying corrosion resistant metal ........... but I will leave it at that, and act like I didn't even talk about it.

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 10:47 PM

Here's your best advice. Suck it up and consult the original equipment manufacturer, get out the equipemnt drawings, ASME boiler and pressure vessel code sections; ASME B31.3 and contact an engineer.

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Re: Surface Conditioning

11/06/2009 11:15 PM

Yas it is the bwst way to contact the Equipment manufacturer and ask, or refer ASME technique for surfcae coating.

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