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Hopper Design

11/24/2009 5:15 AM

i need to fabricate a mass flow hopper for fine coal dust(density 0.8g/cm3). mass is 5.5Kg. i can fabricate a hopper that suitable for the required volume. but how can i put the opening to collect powder from the bottom by avoiding Ratholing, arch bridges or domes ( these i found from hopper design pdf). but to calculate it require wall friction, Effective Angle of Internal Friction, Material Flow Function kind of things. where can i these values for my material?

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Re: Hopper Design

11/24/2009 5:57 AM

Radio active mass flow measurement by measuring the rate of change of coal level in the hopper and the instantaneous coal density (or 0.8g/cm3). You may provide rotary valve followed by screw conveyor to remove the material from hopper.

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Re: Hopper Design

11/24/2009 6:29 AM

how can i decide the throat size(diameter) for feeder device. Other wise material will be block and will not feed.

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Re: Hopper Design

11/24/2009 6:48 AM

not being my area, nevertheless I have seen hoppers for food products (flour, spices etc.) which use vibration motors (adjustable via moveable bob weights) bolted to the hopper side panel to encourage flow, might these help?

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11/24/2009 8:06 AM

Find a laboratory to test your material, there is a huge range of properties from different types of coal.

A quick search found this one to give you an idea of what to look for.

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Re: Hopper Design

11/24/2009 9:29 AM

thanks... i try to find a lab. is there any handbook or tables to find a internet?

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11/24/2009 12:20 PM

Search here at Jenike & Johanson. I don't know of any other places.

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Re: Hopper Design

11/24/2009 11:29 PM

I wonder about using a mechanism like a flour sifter in the bottom of the hopper. This is just a brainstorm; I have no idea if it would really work. Vibrators are often useful; you might play around with the direction of vibration--vertical, horizontal, etc. Or maybe a delumper "corkscrew" reaching from the top down toward the hopper bottom.

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11/24/2009 11:30 PM

You must evaluate the entire application as an integrated system. These will affect the size and type of discharge on the hopper. Can you supply additional information?

- Confirm the hopper volume or total weight of material to store.

- Confirm exactly how you wish to "collect powder" from the hopper. Are you sampling material, or discharging into a downstream process?

- What volume and rate will you collect / discharge material from the hopper?

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11/25/2009 12:51 AM

We will need to consider the following to sketch out a design.

1. Material chemical analysis

2. Moisture content at any given time of day and year

3. Material sieve analysis

4. Location of hopper, outside, inside?

5. Location of plant

6. Material use

7. Material flow sheet, storage comments

8. Any restrictions in size, height, etc.

Please contact T.C.Inc. directly at tcinc002@aol.com

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Re: Hopper Design

11/26/2009 10:24 AM

Having a similar problem but with ground polystyrene in a hopper it would constantly bridge near the screw auger area.

The only cure we were ever able to make work was a vibrator near the feed to keep it shaking.

we even went with hoppers with extremely steep walls like 60 degrees! and it still would bridge. the vibrator cured all problems

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Re: Hopper Design

12/17/2009 1:00 AM

thanks for you advices.

i need to store 250Kg in the silo and it need to discharge via a screw feeder of 4". i need 7Kg within a minute.

i just look some silo designs. they had an angle of 60. so i decided to fabricate the silo cone to 60 degrees

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12/17/2009 9:41 AM

You can do all the calculations you want, but fine coal dust is going to bridge over a 4" screw in a fixed wall hopper. Guaranteed. Add humidity to the equation which will agglomerate the dust and the flow gets exponentially worse. You will need to design and/or purchase some form of active hopper discharging device.

There is an entire industry dedicated to feeding fine powders at low rates. A "feeder" is nothing more than a screw conveyor section with an integrated hopper incorporating a flow promotion device. Following is a link to start browsing manufacturers:

http://www.powderandbulk.com/conveying/feeders.htm

Also your planned 4" screw is way too large for the application. My calculations show it will only operate around 10 RPM so will pulse a slug of material every six seconds. Let the feeder manufacturer test your powder and specify the screw size.

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12/17/2009 10:31 PM

Thank you very much. i'll try to find a manufacture.

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