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Cement Silo Dust Collector Purpose & Diagram

05/25/2010 6:42 AM

i knew this might be awkward since the name implies collecting dust. im confuse since the dust collector im having is use to remove air instead.

i have one dust collector sitting on top of cement silo and the factory worker says it's to remove air inside the silo so that the cement will settle down. why it is needed to remove air from the silo?

the dust collector is using filter bag & air pulse to remove air from the system while retaining the cement inside the silo.

im not quite sure how this works since i do not having any drawings. the system is quite old. any good diagram for me to refer?

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Re: Cement Silo Dust Collector Purpose & Diagram

05/25/2010 8:43 AM

When cement is being loaded into the silo, it displaces the air. I would assume that the dust collector is to prevent cement dust from being carried from the silo.

Google up "baghouse" to get a diagram

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05/25/2010 11:24 PM

Noooo, you DON'T want to remove air from the stored cement. That would cause 'vacuum compaction' ... the cement particles would bond to each other to form a solid mass rather than one of made loose, free-flowing particles.

Vacuum compaction is why the surface of the Moon is hard enough to stand on despite the fact that much of the surface is covered deep with dust. Astronauts that walked on it left tracks, but they (and the lunar landers) didn't sink into it ... which had people at NASA worried until the first Moon mission proved that Moon-dust surfaces were hard enough to walk on.

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05/26/2010 8:46 AM

Dust Collectors or Bag Houses remove the excess air from the silo. Ours typically operate at 3-7 inches of water less than atmospheric pressure. No where near enough to de-aerate the powder.

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05/26/2010 8:41 AM

I will assume that you use a pneumatic conveying system to move the cement powder from somewhere else into the storage silo. We have 10 in operation at our site connected to various pneumatic conveyors.

The purpose of the Dust Collector or Bag House is to allow the air used to convey the powder to escape the storage silo without allowing the product to escape containment. This is for both environmental and economic reasons. Without a way for the air to escape the storage silo would become so pressurized that you could not move any material into it.

Dust collectors or Bag Houses operate using a blower to draw air from inside the silo through a collection of filter media (bags) then discharge the clean air back to the atmosphere. The dust particles are captured by the filter media. Over time the media will be coated or blinded by these particles to the point the air passing through the media is less than the air entering the storage silo. To prevent this, a pulse of air is shot into the bag to make it "puff" out discharging the dust and allow the airflow to return to normal.

The quantity of air removed by the blower, by design, is greater than the quantity of air entering the silo. This to allow the silo to have a slightly lower air pressure inside the silo than outside. This slightly negative pressure prevents any dust from escaping through crack or bad seals in the silo.

Your worker is correct in that the Dust Collector removes the air from the silo but the cement will settle down anytime the airflow is low enough to not cause particle entrainment.

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Re: Cement Silo Dust Collector Purpose & Diagram

05/26/2010 9:04 AM

the air pulses are to keep the filter bags clean &

The bag house is to equalize the pressure, when filling emptying or moving cement in the silo's

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05/26/2010 10:19 AM

thx for the replies

IBGrizzly, the cement silo im having is using screw conveyor at bottom of silo outlet to transfer the cement to a cement weigher...our product is fibre cement board. i think most of u would assume it's a cement or concrete plant...

the cement is pumped into the silo from the cement truck. i think this is done pneumatically so there will be air + cement entering the silo. in other words, dust collector remove excess air to avoid pressure build up in silo which will obstruct any incoming or outgoing process.

i understand that silo inside has to be dry. does reducing air helps significantly? since less air = less atmospheric water.

or is there other system involve to dehumidify the silo?

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05/26/2010 12:09 PM

My comment got stuck, since we had a power outage last night

There is probably a dissicant or other dryer to keep the air inside the silo dry.

the pulse jets for cleaning off the bags, run on compressed air, which probably has a dryer.

the transportation blowers probably don't have dryers, the volumes of air being too large

there may also be air cannons [compressed air] mounted on the cone at the bottom of the silo, to prevent bridging

I don't think you can use vibrators for concrete....

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05/26/2010 1:13 PM

We have 5 silo/bag house in use to handle similar hygroscopic material. We do not use desiccants/dryers in any of the silos. The air used for conveying is either plant air (which does have a dryer unit inline) or the air compressor installed on the delivery trucks (no dryer).

The materials we are dealing with are all fine powders. The materials and associated discharge devices are Lime (CaO)/weigh belt conveyor, Limestone (CaCO3)/screw auger, CKD (cement kiln dust)/screw auger and Zinc Calcine (ZnO)/drag chain, rotary valve and screw conveyor.

The choice to pneumatically move the cement from the truck to the silo was probably done for economic reasons. Most transport trucks used for this type of material are built with sloped bottoms and easily pressurized. The equipment needed to off-load the material is simply a suitable hose and a source of air pressure. Other methods require the recipient to have some sort of conveyor belt, hopper system or screw auger to move the material from the truck to bulk storage.

You are correct that the Bag House separates the air from the cement dust.

As for moisture infiltration, the lower the pressure inside the silo relative to the outside the more moisture is drawn into the silo. The reason this is not an issue is that the hydration of the dust from humidity in the air is relatively slow and if your silo turnover is similar to ours, the majority of the material is turned over in less than a week and the constant movement of the stored material as part of it is withdrawn from the bottom of the silo prevents is from solidifying.

We had one silo, (2,000 MT), with ~ 250 MT of ZnO in it that we did not pull from for about 18 months. The material set up and would not flow out the bottom. We eventually had to go in with Jack-Hammers and dynamite to remove it.

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05/26/2010 8:48 PM

my experience is with storing & moving corn & wheat flour

the wheat flour is especially susceptible to moisture.

since the flour was also transported around the plant pneumatically, with all the air routed through the silos, a rotating desiccant drum that heated the nonactive section to remove the moisture

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