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How to determine the cycle capacity of VRLA battery

02/26/2007 10:33 PM

Hi all,

Some technical data of VRLA battery mentioned the Cycle capacity refers to Deep of Discharge (DOD) at 40%DOD,60% DOD or 80% DOD.For example a battery manufacturer said that their 100 Ah battery has 900 cycle at 80% DOD.Please let me know what does it mean? How can the cycle test can be carried out in a laboratory? What kind of method to do the cycle test to prove the battery has 900 cycle at 80% DOD? Any suggestion the lab equipment brand to do this Cycle test?

Please help,

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Imam Yulianto_Jakarta-Indonesia

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Re: How to determine the cycle capacity of VRLA battery

02/27/2007 2:03 PM

Well, 900 cycles at 80% DOD means that the battery will last 900 cycles if discharged 80% down to 20% remaining capacity. A cycle in this case is a discharge of the battery from 100% down to 20% and then recharged back up to 100%.

If the manufacturer is stating this then they have likely already done the test themselves. If you wanted to perform the test yourself, you could monitor the battery voltage to get an idea of state of charge (as long as you had the battery data sheets to reference it to). You would also need a fairly large forced-air cooled (water loads tend to dissolve at dc) resistive load for the discharge, and a changeover system between the load and a suitable battery charger. Generally this is not the sort of test you need to perform (unless the battery brand and quality is not well known).

What is the application.

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Re: How to determine the cycle capacity of VRLA battery

02/28/2007 1:10 AM

Dear Friend

Depth of discharge means the extent to which the battery is discharged. Lets take the case of 80% DOD, this means that 80% of the rated capacity of the battery has been removed, before it is recharged, thus 80 Ah for 100 Ah battery.

VERY important factors to be considered for the no. of discharge cycle is (a) rate of discharge, meaning thereby the current at which the battery is CONSTANTLY discharged to arrive at the capacity. (b) end cell voltage, meaning thereby that the battery voltage at the end of the said discharge e.g. 1.75 V/cell for 2.0 V cell. or 1.85 V/cell.

Generally VRLA battery is rated for 20 hours or 10 hours rate of discharge. Thus 100 Ah capacity at 20 hours rate of discharge means that if the battery is discharged at 100/20= 5 Amps., then battery will provide 100 Ah capacity & go down to 100% DOD. However if discharging current is increased then the battery will last for lesser duration, which is disproportionate i.e. if discharged at 20 Amps. then battery will NOT last for 5 hours, it will be much lesser & manufacturer provides the required factor.

No. of cycle means that the no. of such discharge and re-charge, before the battery life is over. Thus 900 cycle means Battery can be discharged and recharged 900 times PROVIDED (a) the battery is discharged at current rate for which the battery capacity is defined ( 10 hours or 20 hours etc., rate of discharge, any other may also be possible ) For other discharge rates, no. of cycles will vary (b) In each DISCHARGE CYCLE ONLY, sufficient amount of ampere hour capacity is removed from the battery corresponding to the defined DOD & then the battery is COMPLETELY RECHARGED BEFORE NEXT CYCLE IS STARTED & (c) In each discharge cycle, the battery voltage at the end of discharge, does not go down below the specified.

The test to check the no. of cycles which the battery can provide is a TYPE TEST called life cycle test. Most of the reputed manufacturers do conduct such tests on certain ranges of battery. Some have inhouse test equipment, others get it done at an outside lab.

I am not aware of the equipment manufacturer but you can try searching for battery life cycle tester on Google or any other engineering search engine or any engineering website which also has manufacturers data.

Trust this clarifies, Pls. do get back, if you have any more querry, and yes, I am not a battery manufacturer, but do make battery chargers ( company is ISO 9001-2000 certified by TÜV ) for power plants, substations etc. with installations in Vietnam, Myanmmar, Bhutan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangla Desh, Tanzania & Nepal apart from all over India.

Thanks and regards

Ashok Toshniwal, Bangalore, India

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Re: How to determine the cycle capacity of VRLA battery

03/01/2007 10:56 AM

Dear Ashok Toshniwal:

I read that you manufacture battery chargers. Where would I be able to get more information of your chargers?

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Maksun

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Re: How to determine the cycle capacity of VRLA battery

02/28/2007 8:24 AM

Everything was already said is correct.

I would add only that temperature is also to be considered as a derating factor of a battery capacity. Seek curves at the manufacturer.

As for measurements, I would suggest to build your own system with LabVIEW (www.ni.com/labview) or to use DC voltage&current and temperature dataloggers.

If you need more details, just ask.

Good luck!

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Re: How to determine the cycle capacity of VRLA battery

02/28/2007 2:02 PM

A small US company, West Mountain Radio, that makes power products primarily for Amateur Radio and Radio Control vehicle hobbyist makes a very nice product called a Computerized Battery Tester that works with your PC and will collect and graph a constant stream of data while discharging your battery at whatever rate (up to 40 amps) you choose, up to 150 watts. That would only be about 12 amps max for a 12 volt battery, but they do have an optional add-on 500 watt amplifier accessory, which would give you about 40 amps capacity at 12 VDC.

The product has a motor driven fan, but I am not sure if that is to cool the resistor, or is itself the load, although an inductive load would not really be a problem for DC.

Here is the text from their webpage at:

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Re: How to determine the cycle capacity of VRLA battery

03/01/2007 10:52 AM

Hello, I wish to add two comments to what been already said:

First of all, avoid discharging your battery under the 80% DOD. Over that discharge rate the temperature of the battery increases and damages your plates, which will shorten the life of your battery (less cycles). This may be controlled by the use of a BDI (Battery Discharge Indicator).

As to measuring the cycles, there is a manufacturer of an instrument capable of telling you the % of life left in your battery, but not the number of cycles, as this will depend on the use that you give it. I will recommend that you ask the battery manufacturer for the chart that would give you estimated life cycles at different outputs. I will see if I can remmenber were I saw the information of the instrument capable of measuring you battery.

Good Luck

Maksun

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