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Bus Bar vs. Buss Bar

09/28/2010 4:02 PM

When speaking of a bus bar (as part of an electrical system) is it a "bus" bar or a "buss" bar? I have seen it spelled both ways from individuals who seem to be rather competent.

Is this similar to "gray" and "grey" where both could be used to describe the distribution point?

Does anyone know the origin of this description?

Hopefully someone has the information to conquer my curiosity. Unfortunately, "Googling" the topic didn't provide what I was looking for. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Bus Bar vs. Buss Bar

09/28/2010 4:07 PM

In my world, it has always been 'bus'.

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09/28/2010 4:10 PM

From wiki (Busbar):

In electrical power distribution, a busbar is a thick strip of copper or aluminium that conducts electricity within a switchboard, distribution board, substation or other electrical apparatus. Busbars are used to carry very large currents, or to distribute current to multiple devices within switchgear or equipment. For example, a household circuit breaker panel board will have bus bars at the back, arranged for the connection of multiple branch circuit breakers. An aluminum smelter will have very large bus bars used to carry tens of thousands of amperes to the electrochemical cells that produce aluminum from molten salts.

From about.com (Bussbar):

Definition: Separate, metallic strips that extend through the center of the service panel that the breakers snap on to.

I believe you have yourself a gray/grey situation here.

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09/28/2010 4:10 PM

Similar to 'gage' and 'gauge'.

They are basically interchangeable. Some history here :

http://www.diybanter.com/metalworking/227104-where-did-advocates-buss-vs-bus-go.html

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09/28/2010 4:15 PM

Don't kiss it!

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09/28/2010 4:21 PM

Here, with relation to electrical construction (school, hospital, food manufacturing, power plants, public infrastructure) it is either "Busbar" or "Buss Bar".

I have also seen variations such as "buss-bar" and "bus-bar" (hyphen between).

Guess it depends where you are located and/or where/whom the specs originate from.

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09/28/2010 4:42 PM

A fool's drivel repeated often enough will some day end up in the lexicon, especially in the moden age of instant mass communications, but that does not make it correct.

"Buss" is not a word, but because there was an electrical manufacturing company called "Bussman" that makes fuses, and people would often shorten it to "Buss Fuses", other illiterates have created a spurious spelling that uses "buss" instead of "bus". It's still incorrect however, in spite of the illiterates repeating it on the internet...

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09/28/2010 5:25 PM

You're mostly right (give you a GA to prove my sentiment) - but (as Tornado suggested), "buss" is an old word for "kiss" .

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09/28/2010 6:28 PM

Gave you a GA, honest. Someone else has cancelled it out .

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09/29/2010 7:12 PM

I have had the same question: bus or buss?

I don't remember where this came from, maybe my Father, an electrical engineer, but anyway, "bus" is the correct generic word. "Buss" got involved because it is a brand that makes busbars. So, JRaef confirmed my understanding.

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09/28/2010 5:03 PM

As my high school English teacher said "Spell it like it sounds unless its spelled differently".

Since then thats the typical level of help I have come to expect from 'educated people' in life.

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10/23/2010 11:22 PM

That's sort of like telling prople who want to phone me: "I'm always here except when I'm not."

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09/28/2010 6:23 PM

I have tried to avoid biker bars, alternative lifestyle bars, and redneck bars. I guess I will have to add bus bars to my list now.

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09/28/2010 10:35 PM

Isn't that the bar you hang yourself on while standing in a bus?

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09/29/2010 5:42 AM

I've always understood it to be spelt "bus" as it does what a bus does and connect things together on a given line. Since the word bus is a shortening of the word omnibus, Latin for "for all", then there should be only one "s".

To my mind anyway.

And the plural is "buses" not "busses" which I see written frequently. Although if you live in the north of England, you'd pronounce it buzzez anyway...<sigh>

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09/29/2010 7:47 PM

Rosa Brittaniam:

Do I buzz on the bus, while on the bus bar? GA#3

more experimental Latin:

Motor bus:

What is this that roareth thus? Can it be a Motor Bus?

Yes, the smell and hideous hum

Indicat Motorem Bum!

Implet in the Corn and High

Terror me Motoris Bi:

Bo Motori clamitabo

Ne Motore caedar a Bo---

Dative be or Ablative

So thou only let us live:---

Whither shall thy victims flee?

Spare us, spare us, Motor Be!

Thus I sang; and still anigh

Came in hordes Motores Bi,

Et complebat omne forum

Copia Motorum Borum.

How shall wretches live like us

Cincti Bis Motoribus?

Domine, defende nos

Contra hos Motores Bos!

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10/23/2010 11:26 AM

Excellent

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09/29/2010 5:57 AM

And there was me thinking it should be buzz bar because the high current in them and the heating this caused made the bars vibrate or buzz

But I am not a sparky

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Re: Bus Bar vs. Buss Bar

09/29/2010 9:34 AM

As already pointed out, the correct spelling is 'bus', as compared to 'buss' but I seem to recall a similar debate being held between my father and grandfather when I was younger… but not regarding single/double 's' but rather between 'bus' or 'busbar'

My Grandfather's position was, it was just called a 'bus' and that clarification between a school bus or air bus or electrical bus would be identified in the context of use.

My Father's position was 'busbar' because there were different types of electrical buses (a circuit in a computer that connects a device to a CPU for example) and 'busbar' added additional clarity.

My Grandfather (who was also a member of the SAGP) countered with saying that's what hyphens are for… inferring 'bus-bar' I suppose.

Regardless, the two of them argued continuously…

Father would ask for a crescent wrench and grandpa would reply 'here's your adjustable wrench, can't tell if it's made by Crescent.'

They would go back and forth related to materials that would take on their manufacture's trademark. To name a few:

Velcro vs. Hook and Pile Fastener

Ampco vs. aluminum bronze alloy

ScotchBrite vs. scouring pad

So, I did a quick search just to see if 'bussbar' was a trademark name similar to Velcro or ScotchBrite or Ampco… no luck though.

However, regardless of if you choose bus bar, bus-bar, or busbar… there is still only one 's'. But, in closing… my American-English spellchecker tries to change 'busbar' to 'bus bar.' And since my Grandfather was Chief of Engineering before my Father was, at the same company… all documented use of the subject was 'bus bar' which is the way I spell it and use it to this day.

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10/23/2010 11:21 AM

Being pedantic, I have to point out that your Grandfather would have been implying ... whilst you're the one doing the inferring...

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09/29/2010 7:25 PM

Just call it a Buff's Bar .

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