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### The law of conservation of energy could have been beaten by a simple experiment

10/15/2010 4:39 AM

The law of conservation of energy could have been beaten by a simple experiment The proportion of the length of the resistance arm of the lever and force arm is 1:2, The weight of the load and the force is 2:1. The pivoting point of the lever fixed on the edge of the wheel. The graphic above mainly means that by fixing a lever to the edge of a wheel, force will be saved without increasing the distance. The work gained is thus bigger than the work consumed. W1(work paid)=F1*H (downward height) , W2(gained)=F2*H(upward height) , F2=2F1, W2=2W1. Pict url: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9812.msg260289#msg260289 How accelerated speed remains unchanged According to the formula of the second law of Newton: F = ma, "F" and "m" are constant, but "a" changed. Any engines nowadays can keep acceleration only for a short time. Only when the speed of a force-applying object is faster than or equal to that of an object applied on, can the speed of the object applied on increase. Because the power of action should be more than that of the objects of resistance, the accelerating speed can go on, just like riding a bicycle downhill, while you can't anyway speed it more than before at all. We can keep "a (accelerated speed)" unchanged like "g (accelerated speed of gravity)" in the way as follows: The motor and the battery are tied to the spokes securely Given a flywheel fixed on a motor, which is set between the spokes of a bike rear wheel. Connect the flywheel with that of the rear wheel. When the motor starts, the flywheel connected to it drives the flywheel connected to the rear wheel in motion, then the rear wheel also moves, the motor and the rear wheel move simultaneously at the same speed. And the rear wheel theoretically moves at an ever increasing speed. The rear wheel can be used to start a generator. Thus the energy gained is much bigger than the energy consumed.

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### Re: The law of conservation of energy could have been beaten by a simple experiment

10/15/2010 4:53 AM

<groan>
Note word "Could" not "have" or to put it another way...
"The law of conservation of energy have not been beaten by a simple experiment"

This boils down to the same old thing.
A motor connected to a generator <groan>
The generator will never produce enough power to turn the motor because the generator isn't 100% efficient, the motor isn't 100% efficient either.

EG. If it takes 100 watts of mains power to start and run the motor generator combination. The generator will produce say 80 watts*.
So when you rmove the mains supply and connect the generator output back to the motor there is only 80 watts going in so the motor will slow down, and the generator will slow down too and will now produce only 64watts...
which is fed back in and it all slows down until it stops.

*It is easy to fool people with this nonsense by looking at the output of the generator when it isn't driving anything, as at this point it may be producing lots of volts as it isn't connected back to the motor yet.

To put it another way, if you send me £100 I will send you back £80.
Please feel free to keep repeating the above experiment until you reach a conclusion.
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### Re: The law of conservation of energy could have been beaten by a simple experiment

10/15/2010 5:37 AM

You certainly seem to be obsessed with the notion that you can somehow disprove the laws of physics.

Unfortunately the only thing you are proving is that you do not understand these laws.

If I were you, I'd find a different hobby, and change my name. "No. 1 Student" seems a bit arrogant to me.

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