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Thermal Engineering

02/20/2012 10:51 AM

As you know that in rankine cyclefollows the procedure of boiling work production in boiler condensation we know that from output of turbine, steam with wet fraction is available. So as wet fraction steam causes pitting of turbine. Coming to my question is as similar as question put on by victor fischer. i.e., what is use of condensors. out let of turbine is steam. So it has latent heat of vapourisation which is mainly the reasons meant for boilers. By using condensors we are wasting that latent heat of vapourisation. so any conclusion for this

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02/20/2012 12:35 PM

Into turbine goes high pressure dry steam

out of turbine come low pressure wet steam

more economical to convert liquid water to high P dry steam than to convert low P wet steam onto high P dry steam.

It is a waste that power plant designers would like to eliminate, but economics of equipment does not allow.

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02/21/2012 4:07 AM

GA Ried,

When I was student, similar doubts I used to get. So presuming OP is a student, a little more to add to clarify.

Boiler is designed for the particular rate of feed water at high pressure to convert it in to steam. We can not push steam in place of it, it may require several times higher volume for the same rate of weight flow.

Boiler feed pumps can pressurise several hundred bars using few hundred kW power. To pressurise same quantity of low pressure steam to high pressure the power required will be more than the power produced by turbo generators due to efficiency factors.

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02/21/2012 8:32 AM

I am very pleasure in receiving answer from you sir. But you pointed that the pumps are designed for fluid pressures. I am planning in use of a pre-heater instead of compressor to remove wet fraction of steam

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02/21/2012 9:29 AM

But it will still be lower pressure steam after the pre-heater.

How do yoiu re-pressurize stem for inlet turbine conditions?

Or is the LP steam being used for a different process? Co-generation?

Pritam, GA back at you for expanding on my very brief simple explanation.

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02/23/2012 8:24 AM

what about combination of pre heater and compressor

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02/23/2012 11:45 PM

As noted by pritam, the compresser will need more power to compress a mass flow of steam than a pump for a same mass flow of water.

The preheater for steam for a mass flow of vapor is larger and more expensive than a boiler for a similar mass flow of water.

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03/28/2013 12:59 PM

Dear Mr. Santosh1431993.

Mr. Reid and Mr. Pritam has clearly explained, in simple way, with out any Equations. To Compress the exhaust steam of large quantity, you cannot adopt mechanical compressor.

You may say, we can use THERMO-COMPRESSOR. Thermo-Compressor is OK for process usage and normally, you may require 1 Kg. of High Pressure steam for COMPRESSING 3 Kgs of Vapour, where the pressure of compressed vapour will be slightly high, with more HEAT CONTENT in wet condition OR possibly DRY SATURATED CONDITION, where as you need HIGH-PRESSURE for Turbine, with HIGH SUPER HEAT.

If you draw ENERGY-BALANCE and MASS BALANCE, you will find that it is not possible/acceptable.

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